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Military Arms Channel - AWB 2013 Video

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#1 ·
Great video discussing the upcoming legislation. If it doesn't scare the pants off you, you should head out to the first gun buy back line you can find.

 
#54 ·
Unfortunely, if America would ever ban all weapons the overwhelming majority of gun owners will freely turn them in.... Main reason, obeying a law they might not agree with is better than going to prison.....

Something else we need to keep in mind.... Prohibition comes up often as an argument against more gun controls. While the argument is valid it means nothing. The mood of the country at that point in time wanted it and it happened regardless of the arguments against it then. Prohibition lasted 13 years during which the criminal empire grew due to Prohibition. Taking Senator Feinstein's proposed bill lightly could be a fatal mistake. I seen where some elected Washington officials that are pro 2nd amendment wavering(or starting to) with statements that usually come from the anti gun folks. Such as "I don't not see a need for such weapons you can't use them to hunt." While they might support 2nd amendment causes they do not seem to grasp it. The 2nd amendment does not say the people have a right to keep and bear certain weapons. The part of the amendment giving the people the right to keep and bear arms literally means the "arms(weapons) of the day". Meaning whatever arms the aggressor(be it "bad guys" or a tyrannical government). The writers of the Bill of Rights were not so naive to believe arms(weapons) would not change. Yet over the years Congress, Supreme Court and state law makers have made a mockery out of "... shall not be infringed." Shame on the lot of them. If the founding fathers were alive they would be taking the lot of them "out behind the woodshed" rightfully so.
 
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Thanks MilitaryArms for the video, I sent a link and email to many friends and family members almost begging them to watch and contact their representatives. We have to let them know that anything close to this WILL NOT BE EXCEPTED. I emailed my representatives and the white house a second time this morning, think I'm going to do so just about everyday.
 
#44 ·
You're kidding, right?

You think Schumer, Fienstein, Boxer, Maxine Waters, and the like give a rat's ass how many phone calls, letters or email they get? These rabid anti-gunners live in districts which will never vote them out.

But yeah, I'm flooding Congress. Emails and some hand written letters.
 
#46 · (Edited)
Just to clear something up that was said in the video; our conceal carry handguns won't fall under the ban as long as they don't have a threaded muzzle or other military features exc. exc. Her legislation states a detachable magazine and one military characteristic (instead of two like the last AWB in 94'), thus, your standard Glock or other common handgun will be fine. I am in no way defending her, but I feel we should get our facts straight just as much as they should. Great video as usual MAC.

I drafted and sent a letter to my congressmen and senators, and I hope if they get enough they will change their minds. I emphasized how many voters were gun owners, as I think that might hit home.
 
#56 ·
I hope to see this bill in detail but as of the writing of this I understand it to also include handguns that can accept magazines (fixed or removable) in excess of 10 rounds, also in addition there are make/model of firearms stated plainly, exclusions of 1-military feature as opposed to 2 (tossing out a useless bone no doubt).

She intends to have us with derringers, revolvers, lever guns and bolt-action rifles.. She seems to want to roll back civilian access to firearms back 150-years. This seems a ready focus on everything semi-automatic with a removable magazine. She even suggested some device or change in a trigger that would forcefully slow down its rate of fire because at present even with semi-autos you can shoot as quickly as you can pull the trigger so the discharge of lots and lots of bullets that could harm innocents is still a great concern..

I still hear her say nothing whatsoever about mental health services..
 
#49 ·
Thanks to TZ expat for the post and to MAC for helping us get a grip on the parameters of the ensuing debate. :thumbup:

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Of all the absurd things I have ever written I like this one the most.
 
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#50 ·
They wont get it through. Too many law-abiding gun owners. Also they're risking their political careers on this issue. I think personally this will go no where in congress and get shot down (No pun intended) I'm still keeping my ears and eyes open but I'm not too worried. Just take the initiative to contact your local congressmen and senators and let them know how you feel. Don't bring your attitude be polite and respectful. You don't want to come off aggressive
 
#51 ·
While I agree somewhat, they also have a bunch of innocent bodies to stand atop and use for their propaganda. This same tactic successfully outlawed firearms in the UK and Australia so the idea that it just can't happen here is probably not safe for any of us to adopt too fully.

One very important thing to remember is the current president won't hesitate to sign anything. His political career is finished anyway and the public speaking and private sectors that will bankroll the rest of his days won't care about any firearm legislation that he enacts. I guess my point is every politician local, state and federal that answers to you as a constituant needs to hear from you. Even the ones (and in some ways especially the ones) who you know would vote for this, or similar, legislation. They need to understand that their job will be on the line if they follow their party agenda as opposed to their constituants agenda. It may not bother the president much but everyone else wants to keep their jobs after the next election.
 
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Almost a million views combined on the Word association thread and What do you carry thread. Averaging 13-16,000 people online daily but only 800+ views of this thread with a thought provoking video. Let's try and get at least 25,000 views on this one. Watch the video and think. I seriously hope it will lead to action for so many more who are on the fence or feel all will be OK.

Mods: Is it worth a sticky? Just asking. Want us all to think and act peacefully. Own our rights.
Join NRA. Call and write your officials.
 
#65 ·
Indeed it does suck and will..so I'm doing my part and calling and writing my local and state reps... only semi autos I own that qualify if it's and "AND" and not a "OR" ...and my gut tells me it's an "OR" but we'll see....is my glock26 and my sig p238 (no-rail)...everything else has a picatinny rail. ..are XS big dot sights a military feature? What about short reset triggers, reduced muzzle bore axis (advantageous for followup shots, recoil/muzzle flip control, "fighting" if you will..)

What is a standard run of the mill handgun nowadays anyhow? From the collection I have, it leaves me with not a clue..and of the list of ones I'd conceivably be begrudgingly convinced to give up (wheel guns and pocket pistols) it doesnt strike me that the ones I'll cry like a whipped Curr to lose are the ones she'll want me to keep.
 
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I know this is a sticky, but I just wanted to bump this back into the active topics section... for those of us (like me) who generally just check the topics there. This video is a must watch!
 
#68 ·
Found this little gem, evidently addressed to Feinstein via her Senator website:

In the words of an actor and in reference to assault weapons, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Below are a few links. They are from hunters. It would behoove you or someone in your office to look at them and think about what they mean.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/CaptnC/12-8-07Hogs.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/CaptnC/11-10-07_AK_hog_bst.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb77/bust_em/Hunting/110709/IMG_4459.jpg

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll9/motovarmint/0130000803.jpg

http://pictures.second-amendment.org/albums/userpics/10001/pig-ar.jpg

http://cdn.ammoland.com/files/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/AR15-pig-hunting.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/dennishoddy/Photo0042.jpg

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/seagrunt/100_3056.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...AR15.jpg/800px-243_WSSM_Olympic_Arms_AR15.jpg

http://www.gunandgame.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/deer_comp_large.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/dennishoddy/P1010048.jpg


The AK-47 patterned rifles in the first pictures are chambered in 7.62x39. It is almost identical to the venerable .30-30, the iconic deer-hunting cartridge common to lever-action rifles. The average AK-patterned rifle is about as accurate as the average lever action rifle. Unlike the lever-action rifles, AK-patterned rifles' reliability and ease of handling make them more suitable for dispatching hog and wolf, which frequently travel in groups in thick brush and can very quickly become aggressive toward humans.

The AR-15 in the latter group of pictures can be chambered in many different calibers. It is, in fact, one of the most widely used hunting rifles in the United States. It is reliable, versatile, and inherently accurate (on average about as accurate or only slightly less so than the average entry level bolt action rifle by Savage Arms, Remington, or Winchester). This rifle is without a doubt the most popular centerfire, semi-automatic rifle owned in the United States.

Having said this, the vast majority of firearms owners in the United States do not hunt. As of August 2012, as reported by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar in a study for the US Fish and Wildlife Service, about 13.7 million Americans hunted between 2007 and 2012. There are over 270 million firearms in the United States. According to the US Census Bureau, in 2009 over 40% of households in the country reported owning firearms. A 2005 nationwide Gallup poll of 1,012 adults found that only 40% of them owned firearms to hunt; nearly 70% owned them for personal protection.

In studying the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban, rise of Shall Issue concealed carry licensing, and other gun laws, the Center for Disease Control found "insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws or combinations of laws reviewed on violent outcomes" (First Reports Evaluating the Effectiveness of Strategies for Preventing Violence: Firearms Laws). The following charts also warrant inspection:

http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/chicago.png
http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/chicago_handguns.png
http://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/dc.png

These are consistent with the CDC and economist John Lott's findings that gun control laws appear to have no impact on crime rates, violent or otherwise, or on whether firearms are used in crimes.

As a peace loving citizen and law enforcement officer in training, I urge you and your office to either reconsider your position on new and largely pointless (symbolic) legislation, or to explain in vivid detail exactly why each named item in the proposed ban infringes upon someone else's exercise of life, liberty, and the pursuits thereof.

Thank you for your time and stay safe.

Sincerely,


J

Methinks I'll be stealing it and modifying it a bit for ease of public consumption. :hand10:
 
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