I remember it very well. This time will be much worse on us.
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I remember it very well. This time will be much worse on us.
The police are not there to protect you from crime, they are there to arrest the guy after the crime has been committed, assuming they find him. It is your responsibility to protect yourself and your family.
I remember it... like yesterday. Yes, it was very much on the radar here in Arkansas. The Clinton's were from Arkansas, and most of the people that I hung out with knew them to be the lying, thieving, avowed Marxists that they really are. Of course, some of the stupider people in this state worshiped them. The ongoing joke at the State Capital was that their hand picked State Police unit was smuggling in more women for Hillary than they were for Bill. I'll bet most of you never heard that though because once again the news media was very selective in what they said about them.
You had your "good ole boys" in shock and disbelief that that someone from Arkansas would institute an "assault weapons" bill. In the usually Bill Clinton fashion, (if his lips were moving he was lying) he said that he had no interest in "duck hunting " gun or deer hunting guns. He even stated that he was a duck hunter, even though a search of Game and Fish records found that he had never had a hunting license. He would state often and loudly that it wasn't about hunting guns, that it was about military style guns that were instruments of mass murder and that no real hunter would be interested in them. He was using the typical divide and conquer approach, and like now people were too absorbed in their daily lives to worry about it.
I saw it coming and got what I needed then. Shortly after, AR and AK prices shot through the roof. Billy-boy wrote up an executive order to ban the sale of AK's from China, which is where most of them were coming from. That was the end of the cheap AK. Since Ak's from Europe were not mentioned, it was then that AK's from Romania, Yugoslavia and other com bloc countries started being imported after the breakup of the Soviet Union. Those countries had vast arsenals of weapons and ammo from the cold war and all of a sudden in became a cash supply for them when they sold them to the U.S.
The same communist/socialist anti-American players back then are the same ones yakking loudly now. Fienstien. Shumer. Clinton. Bloomberg. Cuomo. The various loudmouths of the Chicago Mob. Pelosi. Ted(I'm drunk again)Kennedy, although all he can do now is scream from burning pits of Hell. Obama wasn't even a blip on anyone Radar except for the one that groomed him.
What you are hearing now, is exactly the same rhetoric that they puked out in 94. Its for the kids. It's for safety's sake. NO one needs military assault weapons designed for killing. The same old tired crap. You would think that they had enough gumption to come out with new arguments but they don't.
That gun control gig was responsible for lots of Democrats losing their seats. For years the Democrats wouldn't even mention gun control, it was taboo, it was a losing proposition. For those that happen to pride themselves in being Democrat,don't get upset, it's all in the history books...look it up.
The one thing that we have to our advantage is the Internet and the speed of Info. Lets face it, the news media sure doesn't put out the facts, they have become little more than a mouthpiece for socialism, much as the "official" news channel TASS of the former Soviet Union. They told you what they wanted to know and with that info, they molded your thoughts.
So yeah, I remember the Assault weapons ban and I remember it well. It made me sick to my stomach then and it makes me want to puke right now.
We have a lot of uniformed and ignorant people in this country that believe everything that they see and hear on the TV while eating supper, they don't have an original thought. We see them hear on this board pop up quite often extolling the virtues of registration or limiting purchases to one a month, or banning anything that they don't like the looks of because they are scary. You have Congressmen and Senators jumping on the bandwagon that cant even tell you what a "shroud" or a "collapsible stock" is or they cant explain just exactly how a rifle that has a threaded barrel for a flash hider makes it more dangerous than the same rifle that don't.
Its the same old crap, and its not about the guns. Its about control. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The government does not want you to own guns because they know that YOU have a limit to the BS that they spew out. They know that you have a breaking point and most of all, the thing that scares them the most, is that there are more of us, than there are of them.
The thing is, history will be repeated. Those in power are too arrogant, too secure in their positions in life to think that anything could go wrong. They forget the lessons of history and think that they are immune from them. They think that no harm could ever befall them because they are so far removed from reality.
We have only to look at Congress or the Senate.They are not bound by the laws that they pass. They don't pay in to the "social programs" that we do. They exempted themselves from the Obama Health-care mandate that wasn't good enough for them. They do one term and they retire at full pay. They are out of touch with reality. Look at the Administration. Most of them have history's that would disqualify them for most government jobs. The President and his wife cant pass the same background check that his SS agents do to protect him. His Secretary of State swore an oath of Marxism. Many of his appointed "Czars" have backgrounds that red-flag the FBI. His appointees have less actual job experience than any Administration in the history of the U.S.
The military loathes him. His superior officers have no confidence in his leadership abilities, and there are numerous incidents of his lack of leadership costing American lives. The Commanders that did take the initiative and had the balls toto do something got fired.
Its out of control. The entire upper echelon of Government has been subverted and most of us haven't figured it out yet.
These same people want our guns. Why would that be a surprise to anyone? Other than the ones that are in denial about the whole situation. They'll wake up someday and then it will be too late to do anything about it. Their vote wont matter...if there still is a vote.
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I remember that it didn't do what it was intended to do.
I remember that it forced some friends in Connecticut to get rid of collapsible-stock ARs.
I remember that Bill Ruger parted company with the NRA and the rest of the gun industry and favored a compromise on magazine limits. Somehow Ruger escaped the vilification and boycotts that Smith & Wesson endured a few years later for similarly compromising with Clinton administration on gun features and distribution practices.
I remember the artificially-induced jump in the price of high-cap mags.
Lastly, I remember the key provision of the AWB was the incorporation of a "sunset" clause, which was vital in making it go away after 10 years.
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I also was just thinking about the Brady Bill that occurred about the same time I believe?
That was a HUGE PITA! The Feds imposed a waiting period on handguns, and then just dumped a huge workload on all the county sheriffs in the country. You went in to buy a gun, then the dealer had you fill out the forms, then the dealer had to fax your forms to the sheriff in your home county. Said Sheriff was then supposed to fax back an authorization for you to purchase the gun. Then a certain number of days had to elapse before you could pick it up. Of course you had to go back 2 or 3 times during the next month to see if the Sheriff had ever gotten around to sending the authorization back in. Later was when I think Dole had something to do with it, but they substituted the "instant Background" check, which was a huge improvement. I remember that Brady crap as being much more of a hassle to actually buying a gun than the AWB.
I remember it being enacted but I wasn't interested in buying one then and I'm not gonna buy one now. I'm not in favor of any gun bans but some people shouldn't be allowed to have em just like some people shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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I remember that back then most states had no CC for regular Citizens and no 'Castle Doctrine",in most States LEO would tell you if somebody breaks in you must make every attempt to escape from your own home before you can use deadly force.The difference between then and now is there are a lot of people with CC licenses,States have implemented laws in favor of Citizens being able to use deadly force to stop a threat of Robbery/Rape/Murder without being thrown under the Prison Bus so those same people being trained on gun ranges across the nation have come to see the benefit of having firearms that carry more than 10 rounds and the AR AK platforms for Home Defense/Zombie Invasions
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I remember that POS Bill Ruger appearing before Congress to help with the details. Funny that NONE of the restrictions affected ANY of the guns he sold. I sincerely hope he has a seat in hell between Hitler and Stalin. He hosed the American gun owners not for ideal reasons but for PROFIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A pox on both parties, one for avidly promoting gun control, and one for not only failing to stand strong for constitutional rights but also for actually buying into gun control in many instances. While we're at it, a pox on the many feckless American citizens for tolerating the mistreatment of the nation's constitution.
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I remember $100 glock magazines.
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Young, newly married, only had a couple of autos then...mostly wheelguns. But I do still have a couple of .40 sw mags built for 15 rds but crimped to only accept 10 rounds. Had afolding stock on a Ruger 10/22 "grandfathered in" but was leery of taking it to a public range. Like I said, younger and inexperienced. The big difference between now and then is there was enough political pushback to have a sunset written into the AWB...don't think we'll be that lucky this time, based on our recent fiscal cliff negotiations. And the pistol grips and adjustable stocks are far more prevalent now...even a good turkey gun has collapsible stocks, pistol grips and rails....way more military-esque features now than then.
My recollection of that time was that it was needless, and worthy of ignoring. You could still get anything you wanted - ban or not. It will be harder to ignore it this time, but I'll give it my best shot.
Besides magazine prices going up prior to it, the biggest thing I remember is:
barrel shroud= "shoulder think that goes up...."
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I wasn't aware of the events leading up to the ban. All of a sudden I noticed the rush on guns and ammo, along with the price increase. I bought a few weapons and larger cap mags during the ban, and paid a premium for them. I expect to see the same thing to happen again. The only thing now is that there are still lots of .22 rifles and the ammo is still cheap, (and probably just as deadly).