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This is a discussion on Obama to go for guns in 2013 'there will be resistance' within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; The resistance, Mr. Obama, is called the SECOND AMENDMENT to the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES, of which you are in blatant VIOLATION....

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    The resistance, Mr. Obama, is called the SECOND AMENDMENT to the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES, of which you are in blatant VIOLATION.


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    Wars are not won and freedoms are not forged and fortunes are not made with the weary.

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    Obama to go for guns in 2013 'there will be resistance'
    There is a solution but we are not Jedi... not yet.
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    When he was elected the first time around he said immigration reform was a top priority and reducing the deficit, but nothing happened. I will believe it when I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctr View Post
    This IS NOT ADVOCATING IN ANY WAY. Finished disclaimer.

    Now Hop, theoretically speaking only, overthrowing the government is not illegal. .
    Practically speaking it is a crime to even join with one other toward that goal. If either then makes a single
    concrete step toward achieving that goal, all are guilty of conspiracy to commit the crime.

    That is how the hapless dudes in a FL basement got charged with conspiring to blow up the "Sears tower," (whatever they call it now), in Chicago. Anyone here think they were exercising their natural rights?

    Now, the danger to this sort of talk is that it really really really makes too many of the law abiding solid
    gun owners who want our country to succeed, look guilty by association. The theme does no good for promoting
    gun rights. To the contrary, if non-gun owners and fence sitters were to read some of this talk they'd be scared out of their
    wits. Not about guns, but about the viewpoints and the intent, the hysteria, and the panic.

    You aren't free because of your personally owned firearms. That's for sure. The firearms that have made us free, and kept us
    free were ALWAYS in the hands of government; you know, George Washington didn't just stand up and proclaim himself
    leader and top tough guy, nor did he on his own decide to rebel against the English Parliament's behavior. A
    conclave comprised of representative appointed by the legislative bodies of the various colonies met to draft The Declaration.
    The Revolutionary War was initiated by the legal authorities on this continent, much as the Civil War was initiated by the legal
    authorities of the states which went into rebellion. Both had a certain legitimacy which would be totally lacking from
    individual or small group actions because some dude from DudeLand decided he knew better than the elected officials.
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    You obviously know sadly, very little about American history or American spirit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdw63 View Post
    When he was elected the first time around he said immigration reform was a top priority and reducing the deficit, but nothing happened. I will believe it when I see it.
    Those would have made sense and been logical. This will happen for the very same reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX expat View Post
    You obviously know sadly, very little about American history or American spirit.
    Here's a tickle under the chin that you weren't expecting.
    There is a solution but we are not Jedi... not yet.
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    Could this be the issue that flushes out the Dems for what they are and helps revive the Republican Party?

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    Obama to go for guns in 2013 'there will be resistance'
    You asking or telling?
    Resistance? From where will it come? You realize that most listening to your message voted for Obama. Resistance? That kinda depends on teamwork. When you think about resistance....keep all of these things in mind. The American public can't stand together on anything anymore.
    To answer your question specifically.......no resistance. The American public pretty much welcomes more government control in these times. Most are too stupid to resist or buck the system. This is what you're left with now.

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    Obama said that he expected even firearm owners to understand the need for new regulations in the wake of the Connecticut shooting spree that killed 20 young children.

    The above statement from the article is what concerns me. While President Obama expects it many firearm owners do favor more violations(new regulations) of the 2nd amendment. Is it any wonder why we have it tough going when 2nd amendment advocates are willing to allow for "reasonable" infringements. It it passed due for all 2nd amendment advocate organization and we the people to ban together in a united front and go on offense.
    "One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation."
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    Second Amendment -- Established December 15, 1791 and slowly eroded ever since What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."

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    Obama to go for guns in 2013 'there will be resistance'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Well, hells bells Hoppy.

    Maybe we should just take the Constitution and burn it. Then we'll just write a new, more modern one. You could do it electronically right on the president's iPad. That way he can change it anytime he wants to... like a Wikipedia entry.

    I sure as hell hope this never comes to pass. But it sure looks like we are heading in this direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdw63 View Post
    Could this be the issue that flushes out the Dems for what they are and helps revive the Republican Party?
    Probably not because no one cares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowman View Post
    Obama said that he expected even firearm owners to understand the need for new regulations in the wake of the Connecticut shooting spree that killed 20 young children.
    That's how he justifies it to himself and his followers. It makes the people that oppose him look like the minority and like crazy nuts. He wants people to believe that this is what everyone wants. He can gain even more supporters this way.
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    Hate to tell you all but the groundwork for this was laid way back in 1934 when the NFA was passed, helped along by lobbying from the NRA. All that followed simply went by the same philosophy underpinning that law. Those who say "enforce the laws we have" should keep that in mind. Quite frankly, the federal government has no constitutional authority whatsoever to dictate to you what you will have, how, or to make you prove you're innocent before you can purchase. The only thing government needs to be concerned with is if you use your weapons to victimize others. It stops there. Our grandfathers and great grandfathers gave that first inch, and this is what results. Anyone who favors "reasonable laws" needs to wake up and understand that the only thing reasonable is absolute respect for property rights, which are properly defined as being limited only by the property rights of others.

    We need to not only stop this monstrosity that Feinstein and her fascist ilk are proposing, we need to reverse the rest of it, all the way back to the 1934 law. Nothing less will do. Your rights are on a foundation of quicksand as long as you go spouting off nonsense about how "these rifles are only semi-autos and so they shouldn't be banned"....and then just stop there. Make that argument and leave it at that and you haven't done your job. The machine guns shouldn't be banned either. Short-barreled rifles and shotguns, sound suppressors...there is no reason that those should be any more difficult for you to obtain than that inoffensive Browning Auto-5 you take down to the sporting clays course on Saturdays. None.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardmt View Post
    Things better wait to get ugly till Im back from Afghanistan. Dont want to miss out on all the fun
    Im with this guy, better wait for me to get back from deployment.
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