What the politicians AREN'T addressing (but I wish they would)

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    What the politicians AREN'T addressing (but I wish they would)

    I did a search, and couldn't find this issue...if it is already under discussion, please link and close this.

    With all of the issues under discussion resulting from recent tragedies caused by mentally ill individuals, the focus, as we well know, it largely on the tools, and very little on prevention. There have been a few voices drowned out in the calls for bans, prohibitions, background checks, etc., etc., but none address my actual concern.

    Ok, lets say that somehow these rules and regulations DO somehow prevent a suicidal person with no regard for the law from obtaining something illegal...it still does nothing to address the issue that our media, and the media around the world, is blasting everyone with just how useless our system is at protecting ourselves.

    Imagine 9/11 where, instead of crashing planes into buildings, each man spread across the country targeting a different school, walking in, and shooting. Or movie theater. Or any other area where they know the likelihood of being stopped within the first few minutes is small...and even if they are stopped, there's a bunch of other guys in different places doing the same thing. Or variants of this...picking locations furthest from law enforcement...or hitting all the schools in one community to overwhelm any possible law enforcement responses. The tactic is really not that far off from the 2008 Mumbai attacks. Yet how many of the proposals getting press could even begin to address such an attack?

    So far, I've only heard the NRA and a few other individuals discussing anything that might remotely be of any help in such a situation, but as the parent of a young child, I'd prefer to use the recent experiences as an emphasis on our need for improved security rather than another excuse to pursue unproven traditional agendas.

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    That is because these "discussions" have NOTHING to do with KIDS or ANYONE'S safety! All they want to do is move forward on a eventual TOTAL ban on firearms. Then they can stop pretending and really start DICTATING!! Look at history!! This is how it is ALWAYS done!!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
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    The tragedies are only a catalyst for the Anti-2A to attempt to seize control. As G30SF states, it's not about preventing another tragedy.
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    I agree with the first few comments, and sort of took it as a given. But what I'm trying to drive at is the scenario that actually does scare me. I've already written my congresscritters, but one voice isn't enough...I'm not just concerned with asking them to not pass useless laws, but to address the real massive exposure these incidents are revealing to our enemies.

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    The OP is describing what has long been described in jihadist dogma as the "perfect day". Dave Grossman talks about it here:
    The 'perfect day' and our terrorist opponents' possible plans
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    The terrorists won't be able to do anything without assault weapons that have been banned.
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    will they?

    Oh, gee... i didn't think about that... oh... well it's too late now... darn it.

    The above was brought to you by a hunter who sees no need for more than 3 rounds, after all that's all he can use on his duck hunt.
    And Sally, down the road, who thinks we're all just vigilantes... and she'll be glad to see al the guns go away...

    And the LEO... the one who thinks only he and his kind should have guns... (They're out there, folks... a few of 'em, anyway).
    It could be worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    The OP is describing what has long been described in jihadist dogma as the "perfect day". Dave Grossman talks about it here:
    The 'perfect day' and our terrorist opponents' possible plans
    Holy cow. That's on a scale much larger than I was imagining...and my version would bring our country to its knees for months. Thanks for the insight there.

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    Hitting everywhere and overwhelming security forces . . . Sounds a bit like the Tet Offensive. And we all know what an impact that had. Well those of that time and those who've studied history at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock30SF View Post
    That is because these "discussions" have NOTHING to do with KIDS or ANYONE'S safety! All they want to do is move forward on a eventual TOTAL ban on firearms. Then they can stop pretending and really start DICTATING!! Look at history!! This is how it is ALWAYS done!!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
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    I agree. Basically, government is supposed to insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity - not take our guns or infringe on our right of self-defense. The losers are making a lot of noise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glock30SF View Post
    That is because these "discussions" have NOTHING to do with KIDS or ANYONE'S safety! All they want to do is move forward on a eventual TOTAL ban on firearms. Then they can stop pretending and really start DICTATING!! Look at history!! This is how it is ALWAYS done!!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
    YUP. An armed populace cannot be easily subjugated. Unfortunately, I don't think that they are stupid. I think that they know EXACTLY what they are doing.

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    The government can't protect us from everything. And more importantly, they shouldn't.
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