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Good read indeed!
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I'd prefer it never comes to this. It's all ugly.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." ~ P. J. O'Rourke
Yeah, what "UN" country is going to try to take our arms? The Brits? They're the only ones with any sort of real army and they tried twice before wising up.
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Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid... "For What It's Worth" Buffalo Springfield
You have to be kidding yourself if you think that the armed forces or LEO won't violate our constitutional rights. They do it everyday.
When it comes down to feeding their families ie. their security, they won't be thinking much about your rights on paper.
I don't carry a gun to look for or start a fight. I carry one to finish a fight I never wanted to be in.
Those shinny blue helmets make great targets, dont see this happening.
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That is a very good read.
My question - this all happens after the Gov declairs us all Felons if we do not surrender our Arms. Well at that point, what would you have to lose?
This has also been posted on my NY firearm forum.
Here are my two replies.
"Interesting. What about the confiscations that took place after Katrina? He does not address that. "
"Quote Originally Posted by DWrath View Post
I see Katrina as being to their advantage... Most people were displaced and those who didn't leave were far outnumbered by government goons. In all the chaos I think it would have been impossible for communities to organize any sort of meaningful resistance."
and my final reply.
"That's the point kinda. I didn't see armed national guards men and women standing up to the Federal and local authorities that were confiscating weapons from people's homes. Did you? Oh wait according to someone interviewed the coast guard and the national guard were the ones assisting them.....
Yes none of us were there. So WE will never know. But the people that were interviewed were present I believe. So yes it comes down to who do you believe. And here WE are......
Im not so sure if the military forces still stationed in the United States would stand up for citizens or not, I really don't know. I support our troops 100%. And thank all who have served and are currently serving. But if the National Guard stood by, even joined in. I'm quite concerned........ "
NRA: The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina - YouTube
Staff Sgt. Refuses Gun Grab - Reality Report Special Interview - YouTube
I live in the People's Republic of New York.
Don't ever think that our servicemen and women or LEOs wouldn't carry out orders to confiscate guns and to take action, up to firing on citizens, that don't comply. Look what happened in Nazi Germany. Do you think the Holocaust was carried out by a group of "evil men?" Well, by definition I guess they were, but these were sons, fathers, husbands, brothers, neighbors, friends, and fellow countrymen of the people they murdered. There is overwhelming evidence of human's nature to comply with and obey authority. Our servicemen and women are trained to follow orders.
I say this meaning no disrespect to our military personnel. I hope I am completely wrong on this, and I know that there would be a large number that would refuse such action. But history has taught us over and over that humans are capable of horrendous things when they believe they have no other choice. Suffice to say that if things came to that it would be very ugly.
I made that very point when I attended The Holocaust Museum in DC and was discussing why the police and military carried out the orders of Hitler.
"Lets Be Careful Out There!"