NRA-ILA Too Quiet?

NRA-ILA Too Quiet?

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    NRA-ILA Too Quiet?

    Should the NRA-ILA be more pro-active and pre-emptive in their fight to stave off this attack on the 2nd amendment?

    I have combed the internet as much as possible looking for (Exactly) what the NRA-ILA is doing.

    What I see seems to be more (Reactionary) than (Offensive)? I don't get it.
    They report the news of the day, yet I see nothing how they are combating it.

    Is the NRA-ILA simply waiting to see what precisely develops in a House bill and then react to it?

    The media is waging a very convincing war against gun owners thru lies, deceit, misdirection and emotion.

    Does not the NRA-ILA have the "where-with-all" to launch a media blitz now to combat the lies before they take root in the mush for brains sheep left wing whackos?

    Political candidates know well the media is what gets you elected; not the facts!

    I fear the NRA-ILA is dragging their feet and may just be caught off guard and unprepared for a fight on multiple levels.
    This fight is ugly. Perhaps we need to fight it on their level or wonder what just happened after the fact!...not unlike how the current leader
    slid into office.

    I hope the NRA-ILA is doing far more behind the scenes than they are showing.
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    Don't wait for them.

    Write your Congressman ASAP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RightsEroding View Post
    Should the NRA-ILA be more pro-active and pre-emptive in their fight to stave off this attack on the 2nd amendment?

    I have combed the internet as much as possible looking for (Exactly) what the NRA-ILA is doing.

    What I see seems to be more (Reactionary) than (Offensive)? I don't get it.
    They report the news of the day, yet I see nothing how they are combating it.

    Is the NRA-ILA simply waiting to see what precisely develops in a House bill and then react to it?

    The media is waging a very convincing war against gun owners thru lies, deceit, misdirection and emotion.

    Does not the NRA-ILA have the "where-with-all" to launch a media blitz now to combat the lies before they take root in the mush for brains sheep left wing whackos?

    Political candidates know well the media is what gets you elected; not the facts!

    I fear the NRA-ILA is dragging their feet and may just be caught off guard and unprepared for a fight on multiple levels.
    This fight is ugly. Perhaps we need to fight it on their level or wonder what just happened after the fact!...not unlike how the current leader
    slid into office.

    I hope the NRA-ILA is doing far more behind the scenes than they are showing.
    The NRA has always been much more effective as a lobbying organization than as a public relations firm. The US Congress is where the struggle lies, much more so than in the court of public opinion, which the gun haters lie about, anyway.
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    Any legislator can propose any number of bills about anything, then the politicing begins. Until there are actual bills that are proposed, the NRA would just be wasting money on a PR flag that the mainstream media won't wave. At this particular point in time, the weight of the battle is on us!!! Grassroots, individuals sending electronic letters to their representatives. Go to Congress.org. It only takes a minute (they use your zip code to send them to the appropriate people). I've been sending 3 letters per day average (all different angles on the issue). I am up to a total of 48 sent (if you count the same letter going to 3 different people as 3 letters). The onus is on WE THE PEOPLE!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BugDude View Post
    Any legislator can propose any number of bills about anything, then the politicing begins. Until there are actual bills that are proposed, the NRA would just be wasting money on a PR flag that the mainstream media won't wave. At this particular point in time, the weight of the battle is on us!!! Grassroots, individuals sending electronic letters to their representatives. Go to Congress.org. It only takes a minute (they use your zip code to send them to the appropriate people). I've been sending 3 letters per day average (all different angles on the issue). I am up to a total of 48 sent (if you count the same letter going to 3 different people as 3 letters). The onus is on WE THE PEOPLE!!!
    Ive been doing the same thing if I get responses will post.
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    I gave this its own thread, but relevant to this discussion:
    NRA-ILA | Feinstein's New Gun-Ban Bill Likely to be Introduced January 22
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    They've been on it for 100 yrs............they're not sleepin'.
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    You have enjoyed the rights you have for as long as you have because of the NRA and generations before you who supported them.

    They are the most fearsome lobby group on the hill for a reason.
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    Don't worry about what the NRA-ILA is doing... You just keep writing those checks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    They've been on it for 100 yrs............they're not sleepin'.
    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    You have enjoyed the rights you have for as long as you have because of the NRA and generations before you who supported them.

    They are the most fearsome lobby group on the hill for a reason.


    ^^^^^^^YEP^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    There is only so much the NRA-ILA can do in a proactive setting.

    Where they shine is getting the wrongs righted.

    They may not seem like they are for everyones gun rights, but they really are.

    Think Pit Viper, waiting for the right moment to srike.
    Too soon, you go hungry, to late you end up on the menu instead.
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    The ILA doesn't exist to wave the flag or go on public opinion escapades. They exist as a lobbying arm of the National Rifle Association. Their job is to work with lawmakers and be heard by them. I have been involved with the ILA for over a decade and can't recall them ever doing much in the public eye. On the Hill they are fearsome and people know they have to be listened to. That's why Biden and Obama have been so clear that they don't want anyone worrying about the politics of this, let Obama deal with it. He's convinced he can force Congress to do anything he pleases (see fiscal cliff and his statements on the debt ceiling thus far) and since he doesn't ever have to win another election he personally can afford to ignore the NRA. He plans on taking the brunt of the blame on himself in order to shield his allies from the public and NRA's wrath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    The NRA has always been much more effective as a lobbying organization than as a public relations firm. The US Congress is where the struggle lies, much more so than in the court of public opinion, which the gun haters lie about, anyway.
    Well said. And La Pierre copped a LOT of flak for what he DID do, when likening violent video games to pornography. So once burned, twice shy for Wayne, because I have to wonder just how much support he received from the pro-gun mob (us) at that point. On this forum I read some very strong reactions to this comparison.

    On that subject, I read today in the local paper that:

    "a New England town not far from the December 14 mass shooting of 20 first-grade pupils is urging the public to turn in violent video games. Local businesses in Southington, CT are offering gift certificates in return for every violent video game, compact disc and DVD surrendered at the drive-in. Community group Southington SOS said there was "ample evidence" that violent video games and other media were contributing to "increasing aggressiveness, fear (and) anxiety".

    I agree with La Pierre and with the Southington folks in that regard. I also feel that, in line with the Court's holdings on the Second Amendment, the First Amendment can be honoured while imposing what the Supreme Court has called "reasonable restrictions"; e.g., licensing of sawed-off shotguns and fully-automatic weapons (the Court's examples).
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    I also believe all the 2nd amendment advocate organizations are being too silent. They have been on defense far too long. The is now to go on offense hot and heavy because we are under heavy duty attack buy the anti gun advocates who have a huge edge since they are getting free assistance from many anti gun media outlets.
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    I'd rather see them putting their money into fighting this on the hill than seeing TV adverts - which they already know that you can not combat emotions with logic. It would be a waste of money and resources.

    If they went as far as to dig up some dirt on these antis on the hill to discredit them and get them so scandalized that they have to step down, then I guess it would be that they finally sank to their [career politician] level of SOP, and I am mostly OK with that since that is the current rule of the game. Blackmail, extortion, and buying votes in contributions.

    I had vague hopes that the general population of the houses decided that Feinstien was just bat poo crazy and would be ignored until I saw the amount of support that she is getting in house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bugdude View Post
    any legislator can propose any number of bills about anything, then the politicing begins. Until there are actual bills that are proposed, the nra would just be wasting money on a pr flag that the mainstream media won't wave. At this particular point in time, the weight of the battle is on us!!! Grassroots, individuals sending electronic letters to their representatives. Go to congress.org. It only takes a minute (they use your zip code to send them to the appropriate people). I've been sending 3 letters per day average (all different angles on the issue). I am up to a total of 48 sent (if you count the same letter going to 3 different people as 3 letters). The onus is on we the people!!!
    excellent advice !!!
    Turn the election's in 2014 to a "2A Revolution". It will serve as a 1994 refresher not to "infringe" on our Second Amendment. We know who they are now.........SEND 'EM HOME. Our success in this will be proportional to how hard we work to make it happen.

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