Gun Rights protection (from Doctors) in the Obamacare rules

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    Gun Rights protection (from Doctors) in the Obamacare rules

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    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:03am by Billy Hallowell


    .......On Tuesday, CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta spoke on-air with “Situation Room” host Wolf Blitzer. The two discussed how the gun provision made its way into health care legislation, while also explaining portions of the text for viewers.

    Gupta noted that the initiative to have the wording included during the contentious health care debate was rooted in the NRA’s stance that patients should not be penalized or discriminated against for owning firearms. As can be seen from the above portion of the legislation, while doctors are not banned from asking about guns, they are forbidden from documenting the information and using it for research purposes.

    This Is How a Secret Gun Provision Made its Way Into Obamacare Legislation | TheBlaze.com
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    Physicians have enough on their plates. They shouldn't be logging gun ownership data from patients into a database regardless of legislation prohibiting it.

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    I can tell you that it took a lot of money, and a lot of hard work to get that wording imbedded in Obamacare. I think the NRA earned their kudo's for that. They were thinking ahead and did a lot of hard work on our behalf to make sure Obamacare does not make gun ownership a public health issue.

    I can assure you, that was a big goal of Obamacare. To be able to exert as much control over guns and gun ownership as possible. It seems the NRA did a stellar job in abating as much of that control as possible. People control is the intended goal of Obamacare and that program having it's will regarding guns would be disasterous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clodbert View Post
    Physicians have enough on their plates. They shouldn't be logging gun ownership data from patients into a database regardless of legislation prohibiting it.
    And yet there are many of them wanting to do just that.

    About 15 years ago, the "American Academy of Pediatrics" (AAP) had a big hand in gun issues and encouraging Pediatricians and all physicians to ask probing gun ownership, and "guns in the home" type questions of their patients. All under the guise of "safeguarding the children."

    They published a study which was later disproved and labled as being "shoddy research, and irresponsible." Many gunowners and parents complained to the American Medical Association (AMA), about Pediatricians asking probing questions of their kids about the parents gun ownership and how they stored guns in the home. They complained that many of the doctors would grill their kids when the parents were outside of the exam room.

    The American Academy of Pediatrics really got slapped down over that because they were starting to promote guns as a major negative healthcare issue. There have been plenty of anti-gunners who are health care professionals ever since and they are always meddling with gun issues to promote their anti-gun bias. And they have shown they are willing to promote bogus studies as proof of their conclusions and rationale.
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    Interesting. What you're describing is a gross overstepping of boundaries by those physicians. Healthcare as a whole has enough shoddy research within its numerous specialties without venturing into the uncharted waters of gun ownership.

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    If I go to the doctor I want his mind on what I am there for, not what I have stored away in my house.
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    I can repost the stats if necessary ....... but one of the larger causes of death in children about 27% is illnesses, cancer, etc. The number of deaths of children due to guns.... doesn't even register enough to make the list. The highest cause..... accidents, and one of the top 3 ... homicides (strangulation, bludeoning, etc by parents).

    So, if Dr's would concentrate on treating illnesses, curing cancer and detecting it early, etc.... they would serve to save more children than worrying about any guns.
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    Doctors can ask all they want to me if I own a gun, my answer would be. "It's none of your damn business."
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