For those of you who would vote Dem, or not at all, to spite the Republcans!
This is a discussion on For those of you who would vote Dem, or not at all, to spite the Republcans! within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by MattLarson
""If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban, picking up ...
October 21st, 2006 08:49 PM
you are right
Originally Posted by MattLarson
October 22nd, 2006 07:56 AM
The problem with voting for a particular candidate based solely on his/her own voting record regardless of party affiliation is that if enough pro-gun Democrats get elected, Nancy Pelosi still becomes the Speaker of the House. The Speaker decides, to a great extent, what does and does not get voted on. Nancy Pelosi, being rabidly anti-2A, will never let a pro-gun bill get to the floor and will sponsor every anti bill imaginable.
Unfortunately, while I would like to vote based on a wide range of issues and a broad evaluation of all the candidates' voting records/platforms, this year, I have to vote for Republicans to protect my right to defend myself(from criminals and from a tyrannical government). Without that, what good does the rest do?
That revolution may be on the way...
October 22nd, 2006 09:01 AM
I too am an Independant, who has problems with both parties on certain issues. Let's face it, the Dem leadership at this point in history is not pro 2A. I would vote for a good pro 2A Dem on the local level in a heartbeat. Beyond that, I will do what I can to see that Pelosi and her anti rights friends do not get into positions of power.
Why this makes conservative Dem's angry I don't know. If I were a Democrat I would be more upset by the socialists that have hijacked the party than at others pointing it out.
Now just for equal time, I really wish the Reps would get off their keisters and do something about enacting permanent protections for our 2A rights. I also would like to see more progress along our southern border, and a host of other things.
October 22nd, 2006 02:16 PM
The trouble is the Democrats are so anti-gun but you can't really call the Republicans pro-gun either. I look at both parties wanting to disarm us. The only difference being the time tabled to do it in.
Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.
— John F. Kennedy
October 22nd, 2006 04:32 PM
Just checking in to see if this thread is staying directly firearm related.
Glad to see that it is.
Keep on thinking:
"Politics As Directly Related To Gun/Carry Issues."
before you post your comments.
October 22nd, 2006 09:22 PM
October 24th, 2006 03:40 PM
It is also always healthy to keep track of whcih candidates are beholden to or supported by the anti's like George Soros and the Brady Bunch.
When you've got 'em by the balls, their hearts & minds will follow. Semper Fi.
October 24th, 2006 07:36 PM
You're absolutely right.
Originally Posted by bullrat
I am frankly amazed that there are any folks here (let alone so many) who seem to believe that we no longer will ever have anything to fear from democrats as far as further attempts at gun bans and gun-rights restrictions of all types.
We have seen with our own eyes what democrats will attempt to push on us when they have the numbers. Why on earth would anyone believe they don't still want their gun bans, and are not thinking of ways to get them accomplished?!
Sure, it may not be in this election cycle, but what about the one after it? Or the one after that? Just how many years of safety do you think the '94 elections got gun owners?!
October 24th, 2006 08:56 PM
Why lock yourself into a party so that you have to accept everything they feed you based on a single item that means something to you. You will not have accountability in your representatives unless you tell or show them that you are willing to go the other way if they are not inline with your beliefs.
Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey
I am a Democrat because as a whole I believe that party represents my core beliefs. I would not hesitate to vote the other way if I thought the Dem candidate was not worthy of my vote.
October 24th, 2006 10:12 PM
If all we had was the Republican party they would also want to take away our guns. The Repub's are only pro gun for the votes they get. Remember D.C. bans all guns. We need the Democrat's so the Republican party will let us keep our guns.
Originally Posted by WorldPax
October 25th, 2006 09:20 AM
Politics will always be politics. Candidates' views on the 2nd Amendment are always going to be a primary interest of mine when it comes to deciding who gets my vote. But as was cited previously in this thread, even if some Democrats do not seek to disarm us, if they should gain a majority in the House of Representatives then Nancy Pelosi will become the Speaker of the House. As such she will be able to control which bills see the light of day and which ones are buried. Since she is strongly opposed to gun ownership by anyone other than police or the military then you can imagine where that will put those of us who cherish our 2nd Amendment rights.
"Society never advances. It recedes as fast on one side as it gains on the other. It undergoes continual change; but this change is not [an improvement]. For everything that is given, something is taken."
Ralph Waldo Emerson
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