It ain't all bad guys - Bill unamously passes to arm civies in a school - its a start

It ain't all bad guys - Bill unamously passes to arm civies in a school - its a start

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    It ain't all bad guys - Bill unamously passes to arm civies in a school - its a start

    Gee I hope this link works - one school is arming up, and numerous others considering it!

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    I'm happy to see outbreaks of common sense happening up north!
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    I'm glad to see they took the NRA's advice. it's a start.
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    I think all schools should allow any staff & faculty to carry if they wish to do so.
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    I'm 100% to let anybody carry,but I believe they do need to be taught defensive tactics,and also team tactics in case they need to fire and maneuver on a threat
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    It's a move in the right direction, but I have two problems with it. One is that I don't think that a specific group should be singled out, for the simple reason that a would-be mass shooter would know who they have to take out first. The other thing is that I think anyone who can legally carry a gun should be allowed to carry on school property.
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    The Palm Beach County Florida school district has had police officers within the majority of the schools full time since 1972. Back in the day it was called common sense and is quite evident a trait our leaders lack today.
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    A very liberal city here .... who's school board brought this idea up a few years ago, were lamblasted with the outrage of upset citizens.....
    A couple of weeks ago it was brought up again, no negative comments were heard, and it passed 6--0.

    Ours , already are and have been for years.
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    Following is a proposal I sent to my Congressmen shortly after the Newtown shooting . . .

    "As a retired school teacher and a current NRA concealed carry instructor I think willing school staff members who are carefully screened and then thoroughly trained in the summer would be most effective. Administrators, teachers, custodians, who are willing and get the training should be allowed to carry concealed. They need to be very discrete about it. No one should know who is carrying and who is not. The firearm should be required to be carried on the person. Not in a purse or bag or in the desk where they might be accessed by unauthorized persons. The training for these people should be very complete, similar to that required by air marshals. They should be required to be re-evaluated and retrained every summer.
    I know in the small schools where I taught there were two or three staff members who would have been good candidates for this program. Custodians would be especially good because they move about the building freely and would not seem out of place anywhere in the building. Teachers spend more time in or close to their classrooms. But even so if something happens they would probably run toward the gunfire with something more than a book to throw at the shooter. Right after Columbine I spent a lot of time thinking about this. The feeling of helplessness the victims would have while a shooter walked through the room executing people is hard to comprehend. Just one armed staff member could be on the scene much quicker than law enforcement. If they could save just a few lives it would be worth it.
    The cost would be much less than armed security guards. The school staff members are already being paid. I would expect to cover the expense of their training and even their firearm and practice ammo. And maybe an annual stipend.
    I feel something along these lines would be very effective. I don't have all the answers, prolly haven't even thought of all the questions, but I think this would work!

    If anyone can suggest reasons why this wouldn't work then maybe we can come up with a workable plan together? I'm sure security specialists would be able to fine tune this into something that would be effective and save lives."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogman View Post
    Following is a proposal I sent to my Congressmen shortly after the Newtown shooting . . .

    "As a retired school teacher and a current NRA concealed carry instructor I think willing school staff members who are carefully screened and then thoroughly trained in the summer would be most effective. Administrators, teachers, custodians, who are willing and get the training should be allowed to carry concealed. They need to be very discrete about it. No one should know who is carrying and who is not. The firearm should be required to be carried on the person. Not in a purse or bag or in the desk where they might be accessed by unauthorized persons. The training for these people should be very complete, similar to that required by air marshals. They should be required to be re-evaluated and retrained every summer.
    I know in the small schools where I taught there were two or three staff members who would have been good candidates for this program. Custodians would be especially good because they move about the building freely and would not seem out of place anywhere in the building. Teachers spend more time in or close to their classrooms. But even so if something happens they would probably run toward the gunfire with something more than a book to throw at the shooter. Right after Columbine I spent a lot of time thinking about this. The feeling of helplessness the victims would have while a shooter walked through the room executing people is hard to comprehend. Just one armed staff member could be on the scene much quicker than law enforcement. If they could save just a few lives it would be worth it.
    The cost would be much less than armed security guards. The school staff members are already being paid. I would expect to cover the expense of their training and even their firearm and practice ammo. And maybe an annual stipend.
    I feel something along these lines would be very effective. I don't have all the answers, prolly haven't even thought of all the questions, but I think this would work!

    If anyone can suggest reasons why this wouldn't work then maybe we can come up with a workable plan together? I'm sure security specialists would be able to fine tune this into something that would be effective and save lives."

    Jim
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