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    Wounded Knee - and you thought it could not happen here

    A friend of mine sent this to me & I thought I would pass it along.

    ....and you thought it could not happen here.


    A Lesson to be Learned on the Anniversary of Wounded Knee


    December 29, 2012 marked the 122nd Anniversary of the murder of 297 Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee Creek on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota.
    These 297 people, in their winter camp, were murdered by federal agents and members of the 7th Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms “for their own safety and protection”. The slaughter began AFTER the majority of the Sioux had peacefully turned in their firearms. When the final round had flown, of the 297 dead or dying, two thirds (200) were women and children.

    Around 40 members of the 7th Cavalry were killed, over half cut down by friendly fire from the Hotchkiss guns of their overzealous comrades-in-arms. Twenty members of the 7th Cavalry were deemed “National Heros” and awarded the Medal of Honor for their acts of cowardice.

    We do not hear of Wounded Knee today. It is not mentioned in our history classes or books. What little does exist about Wounded Knee is normally the sanitized “Official Government Explanation” or the historically and factually inaccurate depictions of the events leading up to the massacre on the movie screen.

    Wounded Knee was among the first federally backed gun confiscation attempts in United States history. It ended in the senseless murder of 297 people.

    Before you jump on the emotionally charged bandwagon for gun-control, take a moment to reflect on the real purpose of the Second Amendment - The right of the people to take up arms in defense of themselves, their families, and property in the face of invading armies or an oppressive government. The argument that the Second Amendment only applies to hunting and target shooting is asinine. When the United States Constitution was drafted “hunting” was an everyday chore carried out by men and women to put meat on the table each night, and “target shooting” was an unheard of concept, musket balls were a precious commodity in the wilds of early America, and were certainly not wasted “target shooting”. The Second Amendment was written by people who fled oppressive and tyrannical regimes in Europe, and refers to the right of American citizens to be armed for defense purposes should such tyranny rise in the United States.

    As time goes on the average citizen in the United States continues to lose personal freedom or “liberty”. Far too many times unjust bills are passed and signed into law under the guise of “for your safety” or “for protection”. The Patriot Act signed into law by G.W. Bush, then expanded and continued by Barack Obama is just one of many examples of American citizens being stripped of their rights and privacy for “safety”. Now, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is on the table, and will, most likely be taken away for “our safety”.

    Before any American citizen blindly accepts whatever new firearms legislation that is about to be doled out, they should stop and think about something for just one minute -
    Evil does exist in our world. It always has and always will. Throughout history evil people have committed evil acts. In the Bible one of the first stories is that of Cain killing Abel. We can not legislate “evil” into extinction. Good people will abide by the law, defective people will always find a way around it.

    And another thought Evil exists all around us, but looking back at the historical record of the past 200 years across the globe, where is “evil” and “malevolence” most often found? In the hands of those with the power - the governments. That greatest human tragedies on record and the largest loss of innocent human life can be attributed to governments. Who do governments target? “Scapegoats” and “enemies” within their own borders…but only after they have been disarmed to the point where they are no longer a threat. Ask any Native American, and they will tell you it was inferior technology and lack of arms that contributed to their demise. Ask any Armenian why it was so easy for the Turks to exterminate millions of them, and they will answer “We were disarmed before it happened”. Ask any Jew what Hitler’s first step prior to the mass murders of the Holocaust was - the confiscation of firearms from the people. There are others such as Stalin, Mao, Khymer Rouge, etc.

    Wounded Knee is the prime example of why the Second Amendment exists, and why we shouldn’t be in such a hurry to surrender our Right to Bear Arms. Without the Second Amendment we have no right to defend ourselves and our families.

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    Wounded Knee was about revenge for the Little Bighorn, forced internment, genocide and Manifest Destiny.
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    "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" was a best seller, and was required reading for me in middle school. Hardly "not mentioned in...books." The number of Lakota casualties (297) is seemingly plucked at random - there is no way to determine to that certainty, and the estimates range from 150 to 300. The number of troopers killed IS known, and it is not 40 - it is 25 (with six later dieing of wounds suffered).

    There is no reason to distort history to suit a political agenda on any side of an argument. It makes the argument - whatever it is - appear to lack actual validity.
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    My Great Great Grandma told them not to feed the pilgrims
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowwalker View Post
    My Great Great Grandma told them not to feed the pilgrims
    Did she also tell them not to trade land for beads?
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    There are numerous shameful incidents in our nation's past, all of which should serve to remind all Americans that our Constitution makes government the servant of the governed, not the other way around. Sadly, that notion seems to have fallen by the wayside over the past decade or two.

    Wounded Knee, the Trail of Tears, the Whiskey Rebellion, the Bonus Army shootings, internment of Japanese Americans in WWII - all demonstrate the potential for abuse of citizens by a government consumed with its own authority, often under the mantle of exigent circumstances (like the "Patriot Act"?). The "Battle of Athens (Tennessee)" at a local level serves as an example of the value of an armed citizenry in opposing tyranny.
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    Wiki has a good read on the Wounded Knee. The 297 figure has some authentication if wounded (7 fatal) are added to the 200 women and children and 90 men.

    Wounded Knee Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    The American government can, has been and will be as ruthless as many of the evil governments in history when the "theys" feel its necessary ....
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    Deleted content for respect off original op , didn't want to hijack the thread , Kenneth

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    Government in any form is simply about power and control over others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Did she also tell them not to trade land for beads?
    Yes, but she said it should be traded for special hunting/fishing rights and the agreement to operate casinos.
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    "Trail of Tears," indeed. One of the most hateful and ugly periods in the history of the U.S. I always heard the word "extermination" whenever the phrase Westward "Expansion" was used in the (slanted) history books. Still do.

    And in a very real sense, had the people been armed and capable of mounting an effective defense, at Wounded Knee and elsewhere, it might have ended much differently for the slaughtered. And there's the message, for all of us.
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    I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment... However, (and however unfortunately)those were "different" times.

    The redman was a savage. blacks were chattel. women, of any race, were property. Any and all of which classes were subject to the whims of any man... after all, they were just animals... or if not that, then had no more personage than a wall lantern or rug.

    More telling and far more recent... was the declaration of a false emergency in New Orleans Louisiana subsequent to hurricane Katrina... Where the authorities not only ignored the misuse of innocent people, they abetted it by removing the means of self defense... from the law abiding people of all races, colors, creeds, ages, and genders...
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    We the People, are going to have to remind the Government that We are the boss, not the other way around. It is truly unfortunate that 1/2 of We the People have forgotten that, or worse, willingly gave it up for trinkets.

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