Ohio considering arming some school staff . . .

Ohio considering arming some school staff . . .

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    Ohio considering arming some school staff . . .

    I'm pleased someone else is considering arming school staff. There are two articles here. I found the first one which seems more recent, before I found the second one! . . .

    "Over 1,000 Apply for Armed Teacher Training in Ohio
    Q&A on Armed Teacher Training Program
    January 10, 2013
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    DELAWARE, OH - On December 20, 2012, the Buckeye Firearms Foundation announced the Armed Teacher Training Program.
    The original intent was to simply offer free firearm training to 24 teachers in order to show that teachers could be an effective deterrent to mass murder in schools.
    After three weeks, we have received well over 1,000 requests for this training. So while the goal is still the same, the scope of this program has changed significantly.
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    Parents, teachers, school boards, and the media have inundated us with questions about this program. So here are answers to some of the most common.
    Q: What is the Armed Teacher Training Program?
    A: It's a program sponsored by Buckeye Firearms Foundation to provide free first responder training to educational employees. This training will focus primarily on armed response to an "active killer" scenario, but we may also offer additional instruction on medical trauma care, mindset, general school security, etc.
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    Buckeye Firearms Foundation is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit educational organization.
    Q: How many educators have applied?
    A: As of Wednesday, January 9, 2013, 1,048 educators have completed our questionnaire to apply for training. We are receiving more requests every day. Most are from Ohio, but many requests are from other states.
    Q: What sort of people are applying?
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    A: Based on the current 1,000+ applicants, about 60% are men and 40% are women. More than 70% are teachers, 14% are administrators, and the balance are office staff and other employees. About 85% work in public schools and over 50% work in high schools. There's a fairly even distribution among urban, suburban, and rural schools.
    About 55% have moderate to extensive firearm experience, 70% have experience with handguns, and more than 40% already have a license to carry a concealed firearm. A number of these applicants are ex-military and former law enforcement.
    Q: When is the first class?
    A: We have not yet set a date, but expect to hold the first class in the Spring. This isn't ordinary training. It's not a typical "safety" or beginner's class that can be done at any neighborhood shooting range. It's advanced training dealing with active killer scenarios and requires a dynamic range that allows shooting on the move, force-on-force, live-fire houses, and outdoor training. So we're holding off for better weather.
    Q: How will the Foundation select who gets training?
    A: For the first class, we'll select a wide variety of educators, including teachers, administrators, and other staff members. We'll also consider different skill and experience levels in order to test the curriculum. This will help us gauge the effectiveness and limits of the training so we can make adjustments before offering the training more widely.
    The only requirements at this point are that all applicants must be employed as an educator and have a valid Concealed Handgun License (CHL) in the state where they work.
    Q: What if someone does not have a CHL?
    A: Federal law requires a CHL or equivalent to possess a firearm in a school. We will work with applicants who need this license and help them find classes close to them. This training can be done at any time during the year.
    Q: What will the training include?
    A: Applicants will have already covered basic firearm safety and marksmanship during the training for their Concealed Handgun License. Therefore, our training will be on a more advanced level and will focus specifically on how to effectively respond to "active killer" scenarios in a school environment.
    In addition to firearm techniques, our training will also cover other skill sets, including medical trauma care, which is critical to saving lives in mass killing situations.
    Q: Will this be police training?
    A: No. Police have very complicated jobs and receive training on the law, evidence gathering, paperwork, trial preparation, and many other topics that teachers do not need to know.
    Our training will deal with a highly focused skill set and go beyond state law enforcement requirements for dealing with active killers. And it will be tailored specifically for teachers in school situations.
    Q: Will all schools be required to have armed teachers?
    A: No. The vast majority of teachers did not sign up to carry guns and have no interest in doing so. But for volunteers who have the motivation, skills, and training, and who want to provide a critical layer of security for their school, we need to give them the tools to stop "active killers" as fast as possible.
    Q: Can you legally have a gun in school?
    A: In general, schools in Ohio are "gun-free" zones by law. However, the Ohio Revised Code, specifically 2923.122, allows a board of education to authorize employees who are otherwise allowed to own and carry firearms to carry those firearms in their schools.
    Q: Will boards of education give their approval?
    A: Some will. Some won't. What might surprise you is that there are armed teachers in schools right now. And more and more are considering it every day. Many of our applicants have told us they already have permission.
    As you read this, meetings are taking place all over Ohio and in many other states where the topic is "Should we consider allowing our teachers and other personnel to carry firearms at school?"
    Q: Who will pay for this training?
    A: Buckeye Firearms Foundation, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit educational organization, has committed to fund the pilot class, which will accept 24 students. And we are already talking to a wide variety of donors and corporations to help us fund the program going forward. At about $1,000 per applicant (including class and range time, ammunition, and lodging), we'll need at least $1 million just to fund training for the applicants we have now.
    Q: What happens after the first class?
    A: We'll evaluate the training, make any necessary adjustments, and begin rolling out the training program to other locations around Ohio. We'll also share our curriculum with interested parties in other states who wish to start a similar program.
    Q: Can you guarantee that armed teachers will stop a mass murder?
    A: No. Even a full SWAT team can't guarantee absolute safety in any given school. What we can guarantee is that if a school has no one on-site who can respond to an active killer threat, people are going to die until someone can respond. Dozens of people can be killed in just 5 or 10 minutes. So fast response is essential.
    Q: How can you apply for training?
    A: If you are a teacher, school official, or educational employee, go towww.BuckeyeFirearms.org to complete a questionnaire for consideration.
    For more information, please visit Buckeye Firearms Association | Defending Your Firearm Rights. Also follow BFA on Twitter and Facebook."

    Armed Teachers: Over 600 Have Applied for Training
    January 3, 2013
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    DELAWARE, OH - After the mass murder at a Newtown, Connecticut elementary school, Buckeye Firearms Foundation announced that they would provide free firearms training to teachers and school administrative staff.
    So far, the Armed Teacher Training Program has attracted more than 600 applicants from all parts of Ohio and several from other states, including Arizona, California, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, and West Virginia. More teachers inquire about the program every day.
    "We knew this would be popular, but the response has exceeded our expectations," said Jim Irvine, Chairman of the non-profit Buckeye Firearms Foundation. "People doubted if we would fill the first class. That happened in hours. This is something many in our schools have been asking about for a long time. We are already looking past the first class to future dates and locations to meet the demand."
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    While Ohio generally prohibits firearms at schools, the law includes a provision that allows teachers and staff to carry firearms if the school board approves it. The Armed Teacher Training Program seeks to help teachers get permission to carry concealed firearms on the job and provide advanced training that goes above and beyond the typical requirements of concealed carry.
    "For too long, many school administrators have been living in denial," explained Irvine. "They believed that rules prohibiting guns in schools would prevent violence. But what we've seen over and over again is that mass murderers don't obey these restrictions. So schools have become victim zones filled with easy targets who are unable to respond effectively.
    "So our idea is very simple. Let's allow volunteer teachers and administrators to carry concealed firearms on the job. They will all have a state-issued Concealed Handgun License. They will all have greater than average training. And they will all go through a background check. It works effectively for concealed carry in malls, office buildings, public parks, and millions of other highly populated locations. It will work in schools too."
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    Irvine says the program is entirely voluntary. "No one will be forced to be armed if they choose not to. The strategy is the same as ordinary concealed carry. No one will ever know who is or is not armed. Those who would seek to do harm in schools should be met with armed resistance even before law enforcement shows up. Over time, schools will no longer be considered easy, risk-free targets."
    Irvine says the idea isn't new. "For 25 years, citizens in the U.S. have been legally carrying concealed firearms. A total of 49 states now allow concealed carry, some with no licensing or training of any kind. The concept has worked remarkably well. Most of those who were initially skeptical now admit that citizens can be trusted to act lawfully and responsibly. Millions of ordinary people carry firearms in malls, on buses and city streets, and in restaurants and office buildings. It works for average citizens even in highly populated locations, so why would anyone assume armed teachers in schools would be any different?"
    Who is applying for the Armed Teacher Training Program? "We're getting a cross section of middle America," said Dean Rieck, Marketing and Communications Director for Buckeye Firearms Association. "More than a third of applicants are women. Over 70 percent are teachers, but there are also administrators, office staff, and guidance counselors. Half work in high schools, but many work in kindergartens, grade schools, and middle schools. And there's a fairly even distribution of applicants from urban, suburban, and rural areas."
    A few people have questioned the idea of arming teachers who have no firearm experience or may be uncomfortable with guns. "That's a misunderstanding of what we're doing," said Rieck. "Applicants for the program are not firearm novices. More than half already have a Concealed Handgun License. About 40 percent of our applicants say they have previous self defense training. Over 60 percent say they have moderate to extensive firearm experience. And over 80 percent have experience with handguns.
    "Graduates will have to pass the same test as law enforcement. Plus, we're going above and beyond to provide training that will be on an advanced level and focused exclusively on active shooter response tactics."
    Buckeye Firearms Foundation is currently developing the curriculum and guidelines for the Armed Teacher Training Program with Tactical Defense Institute. The first class date is expected to be spring of 2013. Funding will come from private and corporate donations.
    Buckeye Firearms Foundation is a non-profit educational organization based in Ohio and staffed by volunteers.

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    There is a school in the northwest corner that has voted unanimously to arm 4 teachers in the district. 1 at each school

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    Awesome. Good stuff to see in my home state.

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    Good for them. Now if more states would follow their lead.
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