This is a discussion on Who Disagrees with universal background checks? within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Would someone clarify and also cite a source here for me on this? What I would like clarified is where people are seeing anything about ...
Would someone clarify and also cite a source here for me on this? What I would like clarified is where people are seeing anything about gun registration. I have read through every report I can find on Obama's 'directives' (I am not in agreement with them, but I am not seeing anything about registration) and the only thing I am seeing about background checks is that we will be using the same NICS federal check, except it will be mandatory on private sales and 'gun show loopholes'. I would like someone to clearly explain where people are getting gun registration and all that. Again, I am not for any of this, but I do like to actually understand what is being proposed.
Edit: I am aware of Sen Feinsteins proposal which includes registration and all that, but it seems like people here are talking about Obama's new directives.
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Most of the executive actions are exactly things we've been supporting up to this point. Mental health, increased police presence, security in schools. The only ones that bother me are the ones that put research under the control of congressional politicians who are ALL biased one way or the other. Everything else still would need congress' approval, and I still dont believe they will get that support.
My point is I believe they want to registrate every firearm so they eventually have an easier time confiscating when they are ready if that day should come..
About the kids? I was referring to the president today on national news using Children to get his point across and to get public support for his agenda..
I ve had a backround check with every gun I owned in my life, So Im assuming the pres means a registry? Because we already get backround checks.
Why does everyone keep saying "registrate"?
It's basically compensating for a failed criminal justice system, and in the case of mental issues, a failed PC culture.
Before I can answer the question I must have a detailed understanding of what "Universal Background checks" really are.
I think the goal is to prevent the people that currently cannot purchase (i.e., felons, mentally unbalanced, etc) from getting guns. I probably won't sell my guns but if I give them to my son or daughter, or inherit weapons from my father (i know their history) I don't want to go through a dealer. If I sell or trade to another CHL I don't want to go through a dealer.
Yoda, I am, yes.
There are many problems with background checks. We have to look down the road, beyond the current inconvenience.
How are people supposed to get permission to buy arms, from the same entity that potentially tyrannizes them?
How about a NICS check for every citizen before they are allowed to vote?
As for a previous statement about only criminals will fail the check... We're all just one bad day, wrong place at the wrong time, from being criminals.
The burden to prove guilt lies with the state. Or at least it's supposed to. This system puts the burden of proof to show innocence on the citizen, and that too before they exercise a God given right.
When this fails to prevent crime, then they'll institute registration. Then you'll have to show identification and prove that your gun is yours... papers please?
Oh whoops, can't let your wife or child borrow your gun, you might get in trouble.
We're all statutory criminals that haven't been caught yet. And we don't even know it.
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No, it's like here in NJ where one needs to be investigated every time they buy a firearm or Fishing Lic. or Hunting Lic. ....we have to sign documents stating we don't owe child support money, we won't leave our firearms un attended in the home where kids might be.
I don't have any little kids and paid for 3 boys to go to college.....I'm personally sick of Big Brother tellin' me what's right for me.