Hope this trend continues......

Hope this trend continues......

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    Hope this trend continues......

    Interesting poll.....
    http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=25090

    A slight plurality of Americans now say that having a gun in the house makes it a safer, rather than more dangerous, place to be, marking a shift from the two previous times this question has been asked over the past six years.
    Now if we can just convince the majority that more gun laws won't help.......
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    Now if we can just convince the majority that more gun laws won't help.......
    There is one of the biggest battles - translating emotion and slavish obedience to rhetoric - for actual common sense logic.

    There has been a (slow) sea change since 911 IMO and it seems to be gathering a slow momentum. Still - we have much work to do!
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    While I cannot put this in terms I can explain, I think they have been asking the wrong questions. I don't know how to explain this feeling more.

    It is an interesting read, and I think it is definately showing a trend toward gun owners views as opposed to away from them. I wonder how much of the data is showing people who changed their minds due to they or some one they know being a victim of violence that would have been prevented if a gun had been present. Shock always changes peoples minds...

    Oh, how about this? What if they added 2 questions to the poll? Like, If you are attacked and your life is threated would you use a gun to defend yourself if it was available? Do you know the odds of youself or someone you love, being the victim of a violent crime?
    There are 2 types of people, victims and the prepared. I choose to be prepared....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew View Post
    Do you know the odds of youself or someone you love, being the victim of a violent crime?
    Less than .5% in 2005, the highest percentage in the last 20 years is less than .8% which was in 1991.

    This is according to the FBI statistics.
    http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_01.html
    Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farronwolf View Post
    Less than .5% in 2005, the highest percentage in the last 20 years is less than .8% which was in 1991.

    This is according to the FBI statistics.
    http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_01.html
    While those odds may sound low, the odds of winning the lottery are way worse.

    I'll keep carrying a firearm & keep the dollar for a lottery ticket in my pocket.
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    A slight plurality of Americans now say that having a gun in the house makes it a safer, rather than more dangerous, place to be, marking a shift from the two previous times this question has been asked over the past six years.
    The only reason Americans ever believed the garbage about a gun in the home making it more dangerous is because of the LIE that was perpetrated by Dr. Arthur Kellerman, who came up with that ever-changing so-called "study" figure about how many more times you were likely to shoot someone in your family than kill an intruder.

    So much was wrong with that study, I have learned since then, that I can't possibly go into it all here.

    So now maybe time has faded the impact that Kellerman's lie had on the population, combined with the many many refutations and debunkings it has endured. (But still we see newspaper editorialists blather on about it as though it was undisputed fact...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by farronwolf View Post
    Less than .5% in 2005, the highest percentage in the last 20 years is less than .8% which was in 1991.

    This is according to the FBI statistics.
    http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_01.html

    Now, that's 1 in 200 for the year 2005?

    I've already been the victim of violent crime in my life. Are they saying that for every year, your chances are 1 in 200? Over a lifetime, how's that work out?

    One in 200 is not what I would call "safe," and certainly not a remote-enough chance that I would walk around with my guard down, no means of defense, in condition sheeplewhite.

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    [QUOTE=peacefuljeffrey;218771]Now, that's 1 in 200 for the year 2005?

    Are they saying that for every year, your chances are 1 in 200? Over a lifetime, how's that work out?


    Well it is just like going to the casino or playing the lottery. Your chances don't get any better with each pull of the lever on the slot or ticket purchased.

    Statistically, each year, day whatever is the same, it doesn't add up to if you live to be 100 you have a 50% chance.
    Just remember that shot placement is much more important with what you carry than how big a bang you get with each trigger pull.
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