Your Doctor performing Firearm background checks
This is a discussion on Your Doctor performing Firearm background checks within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by OldVet
It's so when they write a ticket, they can swipe the card and it fills in all the blanks instead of ...
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January 17th, 2013 05:00 PM
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It's so when they write a ticket, they can swipe the card and it fills in all the blanks instead of having to type it in. I've been there, done that.
Yes, you are correct, that is one of the uses.
When you go to the doctor, they ask you for your insurance card and your driver's license...Some even take your photo at time of check-in.
There is also a swipe on the back of your insurance card.
While you are sitting there with the clipboard filling out the form, what do you think they are doing with the insurance card and the driver's license?
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January 17th, 2013 05:21 PM
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My concern is with the doctors my kids see (for vaccinations, physicals for school etc.)
I can almost guarantee that out of fear of lawsuits, government threats/oversight... these docs will be asking about guns in the home... access/safety etc.
'Fire-arms in the house' will be noted on forms and in records.
It's only a matter of time. The Feds are already getting access to our medical information through Obamacare.
And once they become THE health-care provider...they can claim a vested interest in the 'added health threat' of firearms in the home.
Our Pres is already describing 'gun violence' as a health issue.
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January 17th, 2013 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by
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My Dr and his staff runs around the office each armed with a brand new lap top. Everything they do is on it. The nurse came in the room and started to ask me questions and into the questions she told me that " big brother was watching" so I figured it out real fast. My answers got less specific with lots of no or none answers. They did not ask about a guns, but asked about how many adult drinks per week,how much soda, sugar,fast food, cigarettes,over counter drugs,illegal drugs, depression,suicide thoughts....... It added 15 minutes to my appointment. This obammy care thing is going to get expensive.
All of which are legitimate health care related questions. Don't want medical care that is appropriate
to your situation, don't answer or tell fibs.
Honestly, I don't think it is the least bit offensive to be asked about smoking by your doctor. Nor is it
wrong to be asked if you take illegal drugs--- not giving truthful answer could possibly result in your
death or perhaps lots of needless suffering. Same goes for not being truthful about drinking. The booze
affects how your liver metabolizes almost every medicine that goes into you.
I understand folks getting upset about being asked about guns, but there are questions which are
health related that you (generic you) need to be truthful about if you want appropriate care.
Here we go-- as public as it gets.
Hopayrd-- Do you smoke? never till I was 60, now a cigar once in awhile
Do you drink? Water, tea, and Bourbon with my cigars.
How much soda? As much as I can get; love Coke Classic
How much fast food do you eat? Depends on whether Mrs Hopyard feels like cooking. Can you say
"Whataburger?" DQ? Love Pappa Johns? Where do you think this midline came from?
Have you suffered from depression? Nope. Those around me suffer from depression. I work hard to
make sure about that.
Do you take illegal drugs? Heck NO. I don't want to lose my CHL. See, now you don't have to
ask about guns in the house.
BTW, its all on Google (well it is now.)
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January 17th, 2013 05:49 PM
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January 17th, 2013 05:53 PM
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Put him on the defensive. Ask him in front of a waiting room full of patients if he still beats his wife. He's damned no matter how he answers.
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January 17th, 2013 05:55 PM
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The gubmint gets a ton of data from FACEBOOK too. That's the CIA's first and main source of information about anyone they need to inquire about. And people are voluntarily posting this stuff out there.
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January 17th, 2013 06:11 PM
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Have never been asked. I guess there are certain perks to being a little, gray-haired, granny. He would certainly be surprised at the .38 I keep beside my bed, and the .22 mag. I carry. Meanwhile, I smile sweetly, and never let on.
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January 17th, 2013 06:16 PM
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Here's an option for you younger guys if this bothers you so much (and it should): stop going to the doctor.
We know from well-controlled research (see link) that regular check-ups do nothing to extend one's life. Granted this is an extreme way to avoid having the government intrude on yet another aspect of your life, it would nevertheless be effective in helping keep you "off the grid" so to speak. I agree with many of the posters in this thread that there will be serious repercussions from the "perfect storm" of electronic medical records and the new push for gun control so choosing to stay out of the healthcare system by educating yourself about your health and eschewing yearly office visits with a physician could be a viable option. This way you wouldn't be bothered with the physician and his RN asking you about things that they have no business asking about. Just a thought.
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January 17th, 2013 07:29 PM
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Re: Your Doctor performing Firearm background checks
All this chatter about data mining reminds me that it's time for my colonoscopy. If they ask me about guns in my home I'll say, of course, my guns are at home. My permit will be invalid very shortly.
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January 17th, 2013 09:53 PM
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V.A. Hospital started that 3-4 years ago.
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January 17th, 2013 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
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The gubmint gets a ton of data from FACEBOOK too. That's the CIA's first and main source of information about anyone they need to inquire about. And people are voluntarily posting this stuff out there.
That's the first place my son goes when he's looking for a suspect. It's very successful.

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January 17th, 2013 10:03 PM
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We ask because about 1/3 of people who commit suicide see a primary care doc within 30 days of the event. Firearms are one of the more effective ways of completing a suicide. Some docs have an agenda, but most just want to take care of you. If you have kids in the home, it is a reasonable topic to discuss, just like car seats, mop buckets and latex balloons.
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January 18th, 2013 07:11 AM
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The doctor can always ask off the record without checking one of the government data mining boxes. As we get years down the road it will become common knowledge to the physicians and the public that people will not answer certain questions honestly and will not seek help for certain things due to being tagged and labeled. That will lead to a system of "off the record" visits and paper charts for certain things, and the physicians will be paid cash for those. I've been in healthcare for 20 years, and that happens now. It will just be commonplace down the road.
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January 18th, 2013 10:20 AM
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My Doctor asks me every week got any new guns...then shows me anything knew he bought and when we hit the range on Sundays shoot for about 2 to 3 hours
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January 18th, 2013 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by
dukalmighty
My Doctor asks me every week got any new guns...then shows me anything knew he bought and when we hit the range on Sundays shoot for about 2 to 3 hours
That's the way it should be!!!!
Know Guns, Know Safety, Know Peace.
No Guns, No Safety, No Peace.
Guns are like sex and air...its no big deal until YOU can't get any.
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