Why I signed up for a Lifetime Membership in the NRA

Why I signed up for a Lifetime Membership in the NRA

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    Why I signed up for a Lifetime Membership in the NRA

    I have been very frustrated with the weak stance Wayne LaPierre and the NRA have taken in the past against the anti-gun forces. So frustrated that I considered not renewing my membership when it expires in April 2013.

    After seeing the new ad from NRA about Obama being an 'elitist hypocrite' I have changed my mind and signed up for a lifetime membership. I hope the money I send will be spent on more ads like that.

    For too long the NRA has had a policy of appeasement with the anti-gun people in the mistaken belief that we could reach some 'common sense' solutions. They have been dead wrong. There is no middle ground with the Liberals.

    Now they want a 10 round limit on magazines, and Bloomberg wants a 7 round limit. How long before they outlaw anything more than single shot rimfire rifles?

    There is no middle ground folks. And it's time for an overhaul of the NRA from the bottom up and get rid of LaPierre and the apologists and appeasers who have taken control. How many Liberals have joined the NRA to destroy it from the inside out?

    Remember what happened to England when Prime Minister Chamberlain signed a non-agression pact with the Nazi's and pronounced it as 'peace without compromise'.

    It is time to become proactive and start taking the initiative in this fight. It is my sincere hope that Obama had finally awakened the hibernating bear that the NRA has become and stirred us into action.

    Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by btolle View Post

    I hope the money I send will be spent on more ads like that.
    Can't agree with you an that. Although I am quite vocal concerning the NRA's poor strategic handling of this issue, the ad they run was in poor taste and IMO,
    was counter productive. I DO agree they need to launch a National campaign to educate the sheep. Such an education will require a PR specialist, not some hot head inside the NRA who responds with a knee jerk reaction. The ad was poorly conceived.

    it's time for an overhaul of the NRA from the bottom up and get rid of LaPierre
    Ya..I hate to be negative toward this gentleman; but sadly, perception IS reality. The perception of Wayne LaPierre is not too good.
    He is the front man for the NRA. The NRA could do better; far better in this regard.

    The downside of replacing him is that the liberal media will grab such an idea and run with it to their advantage; a GREAT advantage.
    I can see it now "NRA members unhappy with LaPierre stance on gun control"

    Total spin? Yep. Perception IS reality. So; for the time being, he needs to stay put. Stepping down in the middle of a battle would be a PR disaster.

    What does the NRA need to do?

    Behind every great politician is a great sales & marketing guru AND a great speech writer.

    NRA: Spend your money wisely.
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    Agreed no middle ground! I also used to sign up with them a year at a time. I am now a proud lifetime member! Lets hope they can make wise choices with the ads and PR in general.
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    Your membership doesn't go toward fighting for your rights, you have to donate to the NRA-ILA for that.

    It does go to good causes, like education and clubs, and you get nice discounts, insurance, etc. It also lets the NRA say we have 'x' amount of members backing us up.

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    I'm glad ya'll are committed, but I'll continue to renew my membership.

    I am a lifetime member of my Faith, Family and Country. Anything else periodically comes under review.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder71 View Post
    Your membership doesn't go toward fighting for your rights, you have to donate to the NRA-ILA for that.
    Not true. If it was true, the NRA would not have made a video.
    The NRA is evolving, (Thank God) to meet new threats to liberty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    I'm glad ya'll are committed, but I'll continue to renew my membership.

    I am a lifetime member of my Faith, Family and Country. Anything else periodically comes under review.
    I agree but with the $300.00 lifetime was a good deal. I know they will still hit me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RightsEroding View Post
    Not true. If it was true, the NRA would not have made a video.
    The NRA is evolving, (Thank God) to meet new threats to liberty.
    No, it's 100% true... like I said, the money they use for fighting for our rights comes from NRA-ILA/NRA-PVF, not NRA membership dues, there's a difference. Ask the NRA if you don't believe me, or Google it - people have asked, and gotten confirmed emails. It's also buried on their site somewhere. They cannot fight political issues with membership dues, that's why there's a separate entity.

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    Ugh. This is indeed an icky time of darkness. If you know Charlie the Unicorn, doesn't it seem to you that Obama and Biden just might be the evil Pink and Blue Unicorns that torment poor Charlie?

    Sorry, maybe too much 'silly time' with the kids. Anyway, in all seriousness, I'm really glad the NRA did that ad. Myself, I might not have used the words they used. They were a bit inflammatory. However, I think they were absolutely ever so correct to bring up this issue of why some people's kids get protection, and ours get to rely on hope and trust, but nothing more. It does not amount to an attack on his daughters, but is rather a legitimate question to which I have yet to hear ANY SORT OF SERIOUS ANSWER, beyond calling it "repugnant" or otherwise offensive. If there is, somewhere, a legitimate answer to this charge, please, drop a link as I'd be very curious to see it.

    Good point about changing leadership during this crisis. Probably a bad idea.

    Oh, and I also just read an article on Fox that stated the president has the authority under Article II of the Constitution to regulate guns and ammo. It says nothing of the sort, but does open the whole "Executive Order" can of worms, and EOs ARE sometimes contested and struck down. It is not an absolute power. I suspect the author just heard that and hasn't really read the Constitution. So, with this kind of nonsense and misinformation around, I'm glad the NRA is out there trying, even if that effort is a bit imperfect at times.

    I'm just going year-to-year right now, partly because I need $ for ammo and new guns! But maybe someday when I have some extra cash around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder71 View Post
    No, it's 100% true... like I said, the money they use for fighting for our rights comes from NRA-ILA/NRA-PVF, not NRA membership dues, there's a difference.
    I think we are splitting hairs now Thunder.

    The ILA is a leg of the NRA..regardless, the money flows and the NRA uses it.
    Kinda' like Lexus using Toyota money for advertising. Two car companies, one shared pot O' gold.

    If you can cite where the NRA indicates membership dues go specifically to this or that, I am open to being educated.
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    Re: Why I signed up for a Lifetime Membership in the NRA

    Write or call them, or Google it. I've provided the info, it's not a secret. If you don't like it or don't believe me, oh well.

    "Due to various laws, the NRA-ILA is a separate entity and it does not receive any funding from normal membership dues. The NRA-ILA's funding comes from separate member donations specifically contributed to support our lobbying and political activities."

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    I guess it's much a matter of perception but I didn't see anything wrong with the NRA commercial, I thought it made pretty good points. Some people were complaining about Obama's children being referenced in the commercial. It did not name them or show their pictures or name the school. It only pointed out the obvious, nothing was really disclosed, we all know he has two girls, and they go to school, and this shooting was about schools. The Left criticized the idea of more guns in schools but apparently embrace the idea for their own families. The complaint on the girls was a tactic for distraction to get away from the obvious hippocracy.

    I increased my Life up to Endowment, gifted multiple Life memberships to family members, also did similar with Gunowners of America and the Second Amendment Foundation.

    Here's my thinking....Am I 100% satisfied with everything that NRA does? no Do we need their help to maintain our 2A? YES
    I'd wager that w/o the NRA we'd have had our 2A rights run over many years ago. If you want your firearms, join and support someone.

    During this post-school shooting turmoil, as lowly citizens there's not much we can do, but there are some things that we should be doing that are very effective and low in cost, and the easiest one is to make NOISE.

    I've got a little experience on the state and national level seeking new laws that were emotionally based (it wasn't about firearms). I learned a lot. I'll pass along this example story:

    Let's say the NRA sends a couple of people to meet with a Senator and talk about getting his support against another AWB. Part of the conversation may go something like this:

    Senator to the NRA guys- "You said the NRA membership has greatly increased, how many new members have joined since the shooting, that have come from my state?" (the senator is interested in his voting support)

    NRA guys to the senator- "Our records show that since the shooting, we have signed up 3000 new members with addresses from your state".

    Senator to NRA guys- "Yep, there is certainly some emotional support out there, but our state has a lot of hunters and gun owners and I'd thought it would have been a larger response than 3000?"

    NRA guys to senator- "True, but we suppose that with the bad economy, layoffs, and right after Christmas that a lot of people are watching their budgets right now".

    Senator to NRA guys- "No doubt what you say is right, but right before our meeting I had my Chief of Staff check the records on the pro-gun emails, letters and phone calls we received and they are only about running even with the number from the anti's. The teachers organization has really lit the burners against this. I understand very well about the economy, but it doesn't cost anything for them to call me and just voice their support." (Before the meeting the senator also checked how much money he had received for his campaign from any pro-gun or anti-gun leaning groups)

    I've been in meetings with very familiar exchanges. During a presentation with a legislator it can be disheartening to hear that the legislator hasn't heard much from the grassroot voters in his state supporting what we're proposing. OTOH it can be very uplifting to hear him say his phone is ringing off the hook with people calling in to support the proposal we're pushing.

    Contact your legislators often, join some pro-gun group (more than one), encourage your family and friends to do the same.
    Turn the election's in 2014 to a "2A Revolution". It will serve as a 1994 refresher not to "infringe" on our Second Amendment. We know who they are now.........SEND 'EM HOME. Our success in this will be proportional to how hard we work to make it happen.

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    I think a more effective ad campaign would be around real-life stories such as the recent one where the lady in Georgia saved herself and two kids by having and using a firearm for protection. That's also a good example that limiting the rounds can/will limit your effectiveness in defending yourself and loved ones.

    The NRA needs to improve their PR and advertising strategy. Don't get me wrong, as much as I despise Obummer, attacking him in such a aggressive way is only going to further polarize the anti-gun folks' stance against us.
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    Thank you, ppkheat, as Exactlymypoint says, that's well..."exactly my point."

    And about that commercial, it may be that I'm a hopelessly reclusive hermit with no internet skills, but I still haven't heard anything like a serious response to the NRA's charge that the policy the Democrats are pushing is an unsupported, unexplained double standard. As I said, I would not have used the charged language they did, calling Obama an elitist hypocrite. The facts on the ground make this inference plain for all to see, which is why this charge needs answering unless they are capitulating and admitting that their position is indefensible from a moral and legal standpoint and must be defended with emotion in the court of public opinion.

    We could always say to our left-leaning friends, "Hey, there's this incredibly arrogant jerk on this forum I visit who seems to think the NRA has a point and that the country deserves an answer to why the elite's kids get protection and the common folk's don't. You are an intelligent person, what should we tell this idiot?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBuckwheat View Post
    Agreed no middle ground!...
    Some food for thought:

    "There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil. The man who is wrong still retains some respect for the truth, if only by accepting the responsibility of choice. But the man in the middle is the knave who blanks out the truth in order to pretend that no choice or values exist, who is willing to sit out the course of any battle, willing to cash in on the blood of the innocent or to crawl on his belly to the guilty...who solves conflicts by ordering the thinker and the fool to meet each other halfway. In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit. In that transfusion of blood which drains the good to feed the evil, the compromiser is the transmitting rubber tube...When men reduce their virtues to the approximate, then evil acquires the force of an absolute." - John Galt
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