Amendment 2 and a half
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Post By bklynboy
Post By BugDude
January 18th, 2013 11:14 AM
Amendment 2 and a half
I just saw a link to a great article in the National Review by Dave Kopel in 2002 about a proposal for a "Goose and the Gander" Amendment to the 2a that would provide:
Seems fair to me, If we can't have it neither can the cops or the Secret Service
1. No government agency, nor employee of any government agency, shall be allowed to possess firearms prohibited to the citizens of the state, county, or municipality in which they serve.
2. No government agency, nor any employee of any government agency, shall be exempt from laws and regulations regarding the possession or use of firearms which affect the citizens of the state, county, or municipality in which they serve.
3. All exemptions inconsistent with sections 1 and 2 shall be void beginning on the 30th day after the ratification of this amendment.
4. Nothing in this amendment shall be construed to exempt agencies and employees of the federal government from federal, state, or local laws and regulations related to firearms.
5. Nothing in this amendment shall apply to the Department of Defense or states' National Guards.
The link is here Dave Kopel & Robert Racansky on Guns on National Review Online
January 18th, 2013 11:16 AM
Nice, but you forgot that they are elitist hypocrites. YOU are the subjects, they are the kings.
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January 18th, 2013 11:30 AM
It's not that he forgot at all. In fact this just highlights that fact,
Originally Posted by ExactlyMyPoint
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January 18th, 2013 12:40 PM
Life--and politicians--are not fair.
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January 18th, 2013 01:27 PM
I agree with it. Lets send it to NY first.
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No Guns, No Safety, No Peace.
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January 18th, 2013 01:31 PM
I like it. You would think "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" would be enough but unfortunately it appears it is not.
"He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." - Leonardo da Vinci
January 18th, 2013 02:28 PM
The Constitution already prohibits government from infringing our right to keep and bear arms... whether citizen or employee of The People (aka government). There is no differentiation because any infringement IS NOT CONSTITUTIONAL.
I'm not sure that you know what 'infringe' means:
Verb 1. Actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.): "infringe a copyright". 2. Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on: "infringe on his privacy".
January 18th, 2013 03:35 PM
I've always been under the impression that our legal system was based on "equal treatment under the law". Not being an attorney, it stands to reason that any law passed already applies to politicians and their agents. Silly me
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations” – James Madison 1788
January 18th, 2013 03:39 PM
Seems to be a challenge for the courts, as well.
Originally Posted by stanislaskasava
Americans understood the right of self-preservation as permitting a citizen to repel force by force
when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
-Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)
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