Don't Underestimate this administration
This is a discussion on Don't Underestimate this administration within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by HotGuns
This administration wants a civil war. They want to kill the U.S. from within.
If you want to do something about ...
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January 21st, 2013 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by
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This administration wants a civil war. They want to kill the U.S. from within.
If you want to do something about it, get more food and ammo and quit pretending that they care what you think, becasue none of this is by coincidence, they have been planning it for years.
Plan for a war, because it is coming. You will ethier be prepared for it...or you wont.
If you want to win, you will spend time preparing and not giving it lip service because if you are still doing that, you do not fully understand what is about to come.
HotGuns,
I really hope that you are wrong about them WANTING a civil war. However, I fear you are correct. Even if they don't desire one, that we may be in for at the very least some kind of very serious civil unrest. But, do you really think (and I honestly just want your opinion, not trying to start an argument) that just buying more guns/ammo and food is what we need to be focused on? There is already a huge shortage of guns/ammo so, if you can't find it or more likely can't afford it what do you do then? There has to be more to plan for than just guns, ammo, and food. So, what do you do if you can't find or afford those three things or what do you do after you have what you need?
“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” --George Washington
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January 21st, 2013 10:45 PM
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January 21st, 2013 10:47 PM
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This POtuS and friends are evil. They are now taking off the masks and they think their Communist Revolution is now unstoppable.
We, the bitter clingers, are the last defense. No joke.
We now know how the Founding Fathers felt before they pledged their all.
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January 21st, 2013 11:12 PM
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Its not a about guns, or ammo or even food.
Its about crashing the United States so that a one world government can finally arise from the ashes.
Its basically about good vs. evil...the same age old battle that has been going on since the beginning of time...in spite of what many people have been taught.
If you start looking at the actions of this administration that don't seem to make sense at all, its because to a rational thinking man, they don't make any sense. If you change your perspective, and discount what the news media says, what the Internet says, what all of the various boards say, just ignore everything but the actions, then there can only be one logical conclusion.
Nothing happens by accident. Everything in politics, finance, is planned, it is all manipulated.
If you look only at the results, it become painfully clear that everything that is happening is happening for a reason and that reason is to cause the United States of America to cease to be.
This hasn't happened overnight, it had slowly taken place for decades. Just now are we beginning to see that the time is ripe.
Lots of people have known this for some time, many people are just now beginning to realize it, and yet many people will refuse to see it because it is too terrible a thing to acknowledge. Lots of people are preparing for the worst and have been for some time. They have been scorned,ridiculed, chastised and abused publicly because they could see what most could not. Now, all of a sudden more and more people are catching on and because they have been behind the curve, they are buying everything that they can in the way of guns and ammo. Many of them believe an illusion, that being that if they have enough guns and ammo that they are "prepared" when it reality they are not. You cant eat guns. You cant eat ammo. You need food to survive. You need water. Even if you have it, keeping it from starving hordes might be a trick.
If still you doubt, go with your gut feeling. Why would the government want gun control? Why would they continue to push the matter? Why are Sheriffs and CLEO's all over the country publicly stating that they will refuse to participate?
Why would the state of New York provoke their citizens by voting to ban anything gun that can hold a magazine over 7 rounds? They know that confiscation is illegal and Unconstitutional, yet they persist.They actually discussed confiscation. I believe that it is a "test" of sorts, to see what the tyrants can get away with. The state of New York has violated the U.S. Constitution, and as of right now they got away with it.
How do you think that will go? Already Connecticut, Massachusetts and other states have discussed doing the same thing. Does anyone really think that this is a random occurrence?
Hard times are ahead. I believe that somewhere, at some time, the hands of those that refuse to give up their guns will be forced. It wont be by accident. It will be by design. When it happens, an emergency will be declared, Martial Law will be the norm and the rights that we have all enjoyed will be no more.
Read your history. The only thing that changes is the dates. The game plan is always the same, it never changes because human nature never changes and the game plan works.
You wanted my opinion.You got it. If this coutry survives the next onslaught it will only be by the Grace of God.
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January 21st, 2013 11:26 PM
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What I find so funny is there are so many people that are so sure that we are headed for the end of the world as we know it. And it's all because there has been talk about limiting magazine capacities and a ban on military type rifles...that was suggested by the sainted Ronald Reagan. I said earlier and I'll repeat it...no one is taking away our guns. They don't want them. There is no conspiracy to take them away. People are so worried about the 2A, but what happened to respecting freedom of speech?
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January 21st, 2013 11:32 PM
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There is no conspiracy to take them away. People are so worried about the 2A, but what happened to respecting freedom of speech?
You're still posting arent you?
No conspiracy huh? You'd better wake up.
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January 21st, 2013 11:41 PM
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Granted we can not underestimate the power of the administration. We also should not underestimate the power of the anti-gun media outlets across America. Keep in mind the say "The Pen is Mightier Than The Sword"....... The media is relentless with their day to day bombardment of propaganda. Much if it either false, taken out of context and twisting data to serve their agenda. The American public is buying into much of the rhetoric. One reason is no one is countering the propaganda fed to the public. They still have us on defense and we are slipping..........
"One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation." 
--Thomas B. Reed, American Attorney
Second Amendment -- Established December 15, 1791 and slowly eroded ever since
What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."
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January 22nd, 2013 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by
HotGuns
"...has the capacity to dampen the enthusiasm to compromise."
Indeed!
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January 22nd, 2013 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by
hartlathers
What I find so funny is there are so many people that are so sure that we are headed for the end of the world as we know it. And it's all because there has been talk about limiting magazine capacities and a ban on military type rifles...that was suggested by the sainted Ronald Reagan. I said earlier and I'll repeat it...no one is taking away our guns. They don't want them. There is no conspiracy to take them away. People are so worried about the 2A, but what happened to respecting freedom of speech?
You sir need to extricate your cranium from your rectum.
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January 22nd, 2013 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by
ksholder
You sir need to extricate your cranium from your rectum.
Word. Prob a Libtard trying to get us to relax. Subterfuge at it's finest, string up the spy!! 
“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” --George Washington
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January 22nd, 2013 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by
Crowbait
Word. Prob a Libtard trying to get us to relax. Subterfuge at it's finest, string up the spy!!


Haha I think there are a couple Loony Lib spies on this forum, whom I will leave unnamed...
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January 22nd, 2013 07:58 AM
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If anyone here hasn't read The Creature From Jekyll Island yet....I just want to plug that book here again. It will open your eyes, if you're one of those who still needs that. The government is not your friend. The second their domestic policy moved further than outlawing murder, rape, theft and fraud, they started getting it wrong and began trampling on you. It's as simple as that.
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January 22nd, 2013 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by
Crowbait
Just FYI: it's secede...Not succeed...

Not if it's successful.
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January 22nd, 2013 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
sigs
Not if it's successful.

I'm going to start spelling it wrong just so I can say that! haha
Been calling it like I see it since 1988 and I don't plan on stopping anytime soon.


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January 22nd, 2013 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by
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What I find so funny is there are so many people that are so sure that we are headed for the end of the world as we know it. And it's all because there has been talk about limiting magazine capacities and a ban on military type rifles...that was suggested by the sainted Ronald Reagan. I said earlier and I'll repeat it...no one is taking away our guns. They don't want them. There is no conspiracy to take them away. People are so worried about the 2A, but what happened to respecting freedom of speech?
You honestly need an education just like the other 50% of people that believe this crap. I am going to break this down for you in a real simplistic way, please pass a long to all the other sheep you know that believe what you currently believe.
1. It's not about magazine capacity, it's about the GOV slowly and methodically eroding your rights. They are not so stupid to just come out and do it all at once.
2. Assault Rifles- First off semi automatic rifles are not assault rifles. It's that simple! You are so much easier to control when you are stuck with bolt actions. Refer to the 4th amendment.
3. Give Ronnie a break! The guy got shot for cry I! Even with this one fault he still had more stones then any president after him.
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