Response from Illinois Sheriff

Response from Illinois Sheriff

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    Response from Illinois Sheriff

    After reading ErnieNWillis' thread yesterday about his letter to and response from his county Sheriff I decided to write my Sheriff as well. I used the basic wording of Ernie's email (hope you don't mind!) and reworded it a bit to fit my state (Illinois). I sent the email last night and already received a response this morning. You can read it below:

    "Mr. Clark,
    Thank you for your concern and interest in these matters. First, I do believe in and have always been a proponent of the 2nd amendment of the Bill of Rights to our Constitution. Not unlike you, I do have frustrations with our State as it pertains to addressing what I believe to be a constitutional right guaranteed to it's citizens. As you probably know, Cook County and the city of Chicago have a different view, and rightfully so. The effect of a concealed carry law would be substantially different in those areas compared to the "downstate" areas. With that being said, I do support a concealed carry law. Your second point goes to the thought of federal legislation and certain Sheriffs claiming they would not enforce any new federal laws. While I think this is very premature, (we do not even know the outcome of the President's proposals) I do not know if these Sheriffs can legally do this. More importantly, I do not know if this is a wise strategy given all of the gridlock that surrounds us in all of our government. Extreme positions are typically unproductive, but when they have results those results are usually extreme. I find most of this from all parties involved (including the Sheriffs) to be political posturing based upon the most recent tragedy in Conneticut. A comprehensive apporach to gun violence needs to occur, but do I believe limiting the size of a magazine will be benificial? Unless someone can provide substantial evidence to the contrary, no. However, if placing limits on the size of a magazine is a trade off for a good concealed carry law within our State, I may support it. As you can see, all of this talk is premature. Again, thanks for your concern and support. Please feel free to contact me"

    While the Sheriff's response was more "firearm friendly" than I expected, it still didn't give me a warm fuzzy. Because he questions the legality of any Sheriff refusing to obey a confiscation order I get the feeling he would cave and proceed with confiscations if it actually came to that. Any thoughts on his response?
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    Guessing he likes his job, and wants to keep it.

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    Your sheriff is an elected politician, and this is as noncommittal as anything else a politician would say. I'd say he's either pandering to you or is personally conflicted on the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Those who sit and wiggle on the fence not wanting to venture onto one side or the other sometimes end up with a fencepost up their ass.
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    I would think that he is right about one thing...

    ...Cook County and the city of Chicago have a different view, and rightfully so. The effect of a concealed carry law would be substantially different ...
    Yep, a concealed carry law in Chicago would likely result in more criminals discovering the eternity of a room temperature/toes up situation. Not necessarily statistically more... but certainly numerically more than downstate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJC7 View Post
    After reading ErnieNWillis' thread yesterday about his letter to and response from his county Sheriff I decided to write my Sheriff as well. I used the basic wording of Ernie's email (hope you don't mind!) and reworded it a bit to fit my state (Illinois). I sent the email last night and already received a response this morning. You can read it below:

    "Mr. Clark,
    Thank you for your concern and interest in these matters. First, I do believe in and have always been a proponent of the 2nd amendment of the Bill of Rights to our Constitution. Not unlike you, I do have frustrations with our State as it pertains to addressing what I believe to be a constitutional right guaranteed to it's citizens. As you probably know, Cook County and the city of Chicago have a different view, and rightfully so. The effect of a concealed carry law would be substantially different in those areas compared to the "downstate" areas. With that being said, I do support a concealed carry law. Your second point goes to the thought of federal legislation and certain Sheriffs claiming they would not enforce any new federal laws. While I think this is very premature, (we do not even know the outcome of the President's proposals) I do not know if these Sheriffs can legally do this. More importantly, I do not know if this is a wise strategy given all of the gridlock that surrounds us in all of our government. Extreme positions are typically unproductive, but when they have results those results are usually extreme. I find most of this from all parties involved (including the Sheriffs) to be political posturing based upon the most recent tragedy in Conneticut. A comprehensive apporach to gun violence needs to occur, but do I believe limiting the size of a magazine will be benificial? Unless someone can provide substantial evidence to the contrary, no. However, if placing limits on the size of a magazine is a trade off for a good concealed carry law within our State, I may support it. As you can see, all of this talk is premature. Again, thanks for your concern and support. Please feel free to contact me"

    While the Sheriff's response was more "firearm friendly" than I expected, it still didn't give me a warm fuzzy. Because he questions the legality of any Sheriff refusing to obey a confiscation order I get the feeling he would cave and proceed with confiscations if it actually came to that. Any thoughts on his response?


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    Quote Originally Posted by high pockets View Post
    QK, you silver tongued devil, you have such a way with words.

    Hey thats not fair. I once got an infraction for using that 3 letter word!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    Hey thats not fair. I once got an infraction for using that 3 letter word!
    So become an administrator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieNWillis View Post
    Hey thats not fair. I once got an infraction for using that 3 letter word!
    You have to use it in an appropriate manner
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    If I remember correctly ... Cook County has "Sheriffs Police"? I'm not sure they fall under the same criteria as a Constitutional Sheriff. Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Those who sit and wiggle on the fence not wanting to venture onto one side or the other sometimes end up with a fencepost up their ass.
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    And, FYI, this is for Rock Island County, IL on the Illinois/Iowa border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJC7 View Post
    After reading ErnieNWillis' thread yesterday about his letter to and response from his county Sheriff I decided to write my Sheriff as well. I used the basic wording of Ernie's email (hope you don't mind!) and reworded it a bit to fit my state (Illinois). I sent the email last night and already received a response this morning. You can read it below:

    "Mr. Clark,
    Thank you for your concern and interest in these matters. First, I do believe in and have always been a proponent of the 2nd amendment of the Bill of Rights to our Constitution. Not unlike you, I do have frustrations with our State as it pertains to addressing what I believe to be a constitutional right guaranteed to it's citizens. As you probably know, Cook County and the city of Chicago have a different view, and rightfully so. The effect of a concealed carry law would be substantially different in those areas compared to the "downstate" areas. With that being said, I do support a concealed carry law. Your second point goes to the thought of federal legislation and certain Sheriffs claiming they would not enforce any new federal laws. While I think this is very premature, (we do not even know the outcome of the President's proposals) I do not know if these Sheriffs can legally do this. More importantly, I do not know if this is a wise strategy given all of the gridlock that surrounds us in all of our government. Extreme positions are typically unproductive, but when they have results those results are usually extreme. I find most of this from all parties involved (including the Sheriffs) to be political posturing based upon the most recent tragedy in Conneticut. A comprehensive apporach to gun violence needs to occur, but do I believe limiting the size of a magazine will be benificial? Unless someone can provide substantial evidence to the contrary, no. However, if placing limits on the size of a magazine is a trade off for a good concealed carry law within our State, I may support it. As you can see, all of this talk is premature. Again, thanks for your concern and support. Please feel free to contact me"

    While the Sheriff's response was more "firearm friendly" than I expected, it still didn't give me a warm fuzzy. Because he questions the legality of any Sheriff refusing to obey a confiscation order I get the feeling he would cave and proceed with confiscations if it actually came to that. Any thoughts on his response?

    ^^ ^^^In bold^^^^^^^^

    Is where he starts blowing smoke up you're backside,

    Underlined is where he's really laying on the gas, and then it goes downhill from there..
    You need to ask him from what logical standpoint he is stating that Chicago & Cook co. residents should'nt need a CC permit, while the rest of the state "deserves one"
    He's waffling like a Sunday brunch.
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    So if you live in a big city, no guns. Only people living in the farm country can be trusted not to shoot each other? So how many drive bys were reported on the farms last year compared to the gun free city of Chicago??
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