Dumb/Dangerous Legislation in Gun Friendly Missouri
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January 23rd, 2013 12:29 PM
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Dumb/Dangerous Legislation in Gun Friendly Missouri
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — On the heels of the Sandy Hook tragedy, a Missouri state senator is pushing for the next step in gun control in schools.
Senator Maria Chapelle-Nadal proposed a bill making it mandatory for parents to notify their child’s school if they own a gun. She also wants to make failing to prevent guns from getting into the wrong hands an illegal offense.
Chapelle-Nadal believes this law would encourage parents to make sure they store their guns safely in their home.
A news conference is scheduled for noon in Jefferson City where the senator will release more details on the proposed legislation.
Mo. Senator Proposes Bill that Would Make Parents Notify School if They Own a Gun | fox4kc.com ? Kansas City news & weather from WDAF TV FOX 4
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January 23rd, 2013 12:32 PM
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What exactly would the school do with that information? Wouldn't the next logical step be to have a school official come in and inspect?
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January 23rd, 2013 12:33 PM
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I suspect that this Senator is into tumbling, and during one of her forward 'rolls' her head got 'stuck'.
"That I cannot do."
"Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks."
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January 23rd, 2013 12:34 PM
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Found the actual bill.
SB124 - Creates the crimes of failing to stop illegal firearm possession, negligent storage of a firearm, and failure to notify a school of firearm ownership
SB 124 - This act creates the offense of failing to stop illegal firearm possession. A person commits the offense if he or she is the parent or guardian of a child under the age of 18, he or she knows the child possesses a firearm in violation of the law, and he or she fails to stop the possession or report it to law enforcement.
The offense is a Class A misdemeanor unless death or injury results from the firearm possession in which case it is a Class D felony.
This act also creates the offense of negligent storage of a firearm. A parent or guardian of a child under the age of 18 commits the offense by recklessly storing or leaving a firearm in a manner that is likely to result in the child accessing the firearm if the child obtains access to the firearm and unlawfully carries it to school, kills or injures another person with it, or commits a crime with it.
A firearm that is in a secure location or locked is not considered to be recklessly stored or left in a manner likely to result in the child accessing the firearm.
The offense is a Class A misdemeanor unless the child kills or injures another person in which case it is a Class D felony.
The parent or guardian of a child injured or killed by a firearm may only be prosecuted for negligent storage of a firearm if he or she was grossly negligent.
This act requires a parent or guardian to notify a school district, or the governing body of a private or charter school, that he or she owns a firearm within 30 days of enrolling the child in school or becoming the owner of a firearm.
The written notification only needs to include the names of the parent and any child attending the school and the fact that the parent owns a firearm.
A person only needs to send one written notification if he or she has multiple children attending the school or becomes the owner of additional firearms. Any time a new child is enrolled in a school the parent or guardian must send an updated notification with the new child's name.
Failure to notify the school under this act is an infraction, punishable by a fine of up to $100. If a person is found guilty of negligent storage of a firearm and has failed to notify the school of firearm ownership, the person must be fined $1,000 in addition to any other penalties authorized by law.
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January 23rd, 2013 12:34 PM
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January 23rd, 2013 12:36 PM
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What exactly would the school do with that information? Wouldn't the next logical step be to have a school official come in and inspect?
Naw, the next step would be to publish that information on some moronic liberal rag's website because they'll request it under some 'freedom of information' act.
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January 23rd, 2013 12:39 PM
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Typical clueless libtards.
Next....
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January 23rd, 2013 12:40 PM
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This is what we face... Even in "gun friendly" states.
It probably won't pass, maybe... But it might.
"They" are trying every thing they can to make end around plays....
They use tactics that make it seem like they care about the kids.... and honestly, they probably do. They try to come up with "common sense" plans to stop gun violence. On the surface, they even sound "reasonable."
Most of our representatives, in my opinion, don't have an "agenda."
They really think they are trying to work for the "public good."
It degrades from there....
Then they start to think they are working "in the public interest."
Then they start thinking they are working for the "good of the public."
Then they think that what they do is for "your own good."
And then, they become Feinstein. "You do what I say, I do what I want." "I am right, you are wrong."
Etc... you know the drill.
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January 23rd, 2013 02:58 PM
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The first portions of the proposed bill made some sense; the part about securing them.
The part about notifying school officials is inane.
As someone else posted, what would the school do with that information? The proposed legislation
gives no clue.
I bet Mr. Retsupt would just have loved to have another filing cabinet full of notes from mom and dad---
of course he would have then gone and asked those with firearms at home to go shooting with him.
Uh, maybe the hidden purpose here is to amass a list of parents who can come protect the school?
Think not.
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January 23rd, 2013 03:18 PM
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Wonder if the children of the right-wing extremists would be segregrated and attend special classes? Hell they may get special treatment each morning on the way into school.
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January 23rd, 2013 06:58 PM
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January 23rd, 2013 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Wonder if the children of the right-wing exteremists would be segregrated and attend special classes? Hell they may get special treatment each morning on the way into school.
There was that thread posted about a college that was segregating students with firearms into special dorms. Though that wasn't IIRC due to any legal requirement to inform.
So, your idea isn't that far-fetched about what could happen down this slippery slope. All it would take is an enterprising administrator, the FOIA and a school board turning a blind eye because they believe such handling is in the best interests of the children.
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January 23rd, 2013 09:25 PM
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Another attempt to look into our private lives. Well if that passes I want a bill that lets the schools know of any prescription drugs in the childs home, any mental illness treatments of anyone in the family, if anyone is seeking psychological treatment, what you feed your child each day, and if there has ever been a police report, child services call, or domestic dispute in the home. Lets see how people like having their private lives shared. And we can start with our legislators! I'll bet there are a few skeletons in those closets!
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January 23rd, 2013 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Pftt. Whatever!
^^^YEP^^^^^^^^^
They can have the $100..
If they bust me.
Who the H. E. Double Hockey Sticks do they think they are?
I would just neglect any such nonsense.
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January 23rd, 2013 09:37 PM
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How do these people get anywhere in life with such flawed thought processes.
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