Image: Sen. Dianne Feinstein's official list of guns she wants to ban
This is a discussion on Image: Sen. Dianne Feinstein's official list of guns she wants to ban within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by tmarks11
Her wording says "All AR types, including the following .... Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rifle M-14/20CF...."
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January 25th, 2013 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tmarks11
Text of the bill is out. My above quote is wrong... she names a sampling of AR-types, then goes on separately to provide a list of other semiautomatic rifles that are not AK or AR variants, which are too scary for her vision of America. Included in this list is the scary version of the Ruger mini 14 (tactical variant), as well as the Hi Point carbine.
Guess this means that the prices of ruger mini 14s can go back to normal (they were up to 3x for a while there).
Of real interest is the specific list of 2200 "exempted" firearms, which include:
-Iver Johnson 50th Anniversary M-1 Carbine, Iver Johnson M-1 Carbine (w/o folding stock), M-1 Carbines with standard fixed stock, ‘‘M-1 Garand with fixed 8 round capacity and standard stock
I thought for sure that they would ban the M-1 Garand (since it actually is a high power, military battle rifle), and was regretting that I had never added one to my collection.
-‘‘Remington Model 750 Synthetic
-‘‘Remington Model 750 Woodmaster
I guess they acknowledge that some hunters do need to fire more then once. But isn't the synthetic stock version too scary? How is it exempted? I mean, woodmaster sounds all warm and fuzzy, but synthetic....
-Ruger Mini 30, Ruger Mini-14 (w/o folding stock)
And here I had thought we screwed ourself by repeating over and over that the Ruger mini 14 was just as deadly as the scary, black ARs. Figured they would solve that argument by banning the mini-14 this time around. Nope, just the scary tactical variant.
January 26th, 2013 12:47 AM
I'm kinda getting tired of waiting to see what "they" are going to do to us next. I think that "We" need to go on the offensive and figure out how and what "We" need to do to secure the things we want and not have "Them" move on us first. We are constantly waiting to see what happens next. Which means we are always a move behind. We need some solid forward motion. "They" need some education. We aren't working hard enough. I'm not sure we have the best leadership in the NRA. "We" are too busy putting out fires to start any to keep "Them" trying to catch up.
"They" think "They" know everything."We" need to show "Them" They don't. I'm not sure "We" are up to the task. "We" are not as united as "They are. "We" need to get up off our a$$e$ and get going. I have no idea what to do but I know I'm going to start asking and find out.
"We" need to stop complaining and do something to gain some traction and build up some steam . Otherwise it's only a matter of time before "We" lose everything. WE need to work closer with the manufacturers on what needs to be done to save this way of life We need the manufacturers as much as they need us. Everything gun needs a united front. I'll put my soap box away now.
When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.
January 26th, 2013 12:46 PM
Last night my mother (not anti-gun ownership, just doesn't like guns), nailed what Frankenstein really is. My mother said "If she was elected from Montana or Texas, or another state the loves their guns, she would be on the front lines fighting against gun bans. She is only making noise so her electorate will keep electing her".
She is all noise, and making sure she tries to stay relevant in her aging years.
"Gun Free Zones" is where only criminals carry guns.
January 26th, 2013 10:58 PM
No, sorry mom is naive, senator Frankenstein is really nuts, paranoid and believes passionately in the insanity she peddles like many San Francisco wine sipping, pinky and nose in the air liberals I know believe in. They are the most arrogant types with the love of the finer life, ha-ha friends and inviting everyone over for a dinner party to watch the TV elections and bash Bush etc. I have lived among these screenwriter, producer type, ass kissing people. They're lives revolve around who they know an leeching onto anyone with charisma and power. In the end they live in some fantasy world and hate guns but if you ***** their balloon they come at you with more violence, hate and evil than you've ever seen, the very people who think they are superior to the common grunt are actually the meanest ones. They're the biggest hypocrites I have ever rubbed elbows with and in the end live in some kind of fantasy world. Stalin calls them idiots who believe in revolution and are willing participants in his struggle. And when they realize their dream suddenly are rounded up and killed with the rest of the masses. Their socialism transforms not into some idealistic dream world, but hell, and communism, facism or whatever evil fills the vacuum. There is no motivation or incentive for people to work, earn and build a country like the USA we know from the 1950/60/70s. We've been on this path since the 30s or before, and it changed skins in the 50s, then turned into 60s culture but now has fully matured into the monster than can truly take down our country. As this happens Europe and other crap holes of the world are coming out of their bad periods and learning from their mistakes and our USA successes. As we circle around for a death dive into exactly what they all were. Both my grandfathers, one dead, one 90 years old from WWII, Korea, Vietnam have medals on the wall for fighting and watching their buddies die to produce the freedom these clowns are crapping on in DC, and we're being destroyed according to a template or a plan designed and architected to destroy the USA.... by the numbers.. Sadly they are winning. I will continue voting, speaking, begging others to listen but honestly we have reached the tipping point, time to continue fighting, but prayer is in order too. It will likely come like those planes into the towers, a huge surprise. I'm sick of hearing people say "Obama is not coming for your guns". Well they were wrong. It's not about the NRA or 2A. It's about my right to choose. And I dont have to explain why.... no different than these hollywood types having to explain why they have a 1000 things THEY DONT NEED.
January 26th, 2013 11:05 PM
GeorgiaShooter I agree with your points but some part of me does feel as if feinstein is pandering to her base a lot. I mean think about it, if she was from say UT she would never be elected with the attitude and beliefs she has. So in some way I can see the argument.
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Laws are restrictive but sometimes necessary to maintain a civil society. Rights are nonrestrictive but are always necessary to maintain a free society.
January 27th, 2013 12:07 AM
Her descriptive list includes semiauto .22LRs and some fancy sporting shotguns too. I think that the inclusion of true sporting arms dooms this legislation. She tried too wide a reach and it will kill the bill.
Originally Posted by DontTreadOnI
Retired Marine, Retired School Teacher, Independent voter, Goldwater Conservative.
January 27th, 2013 07:18 AM
Yeah I see the point, I just think it's naive to think she would sway any other way if that's what her base wanted. She is an elitist, paranoid liberal that will paint all salt of the earth people with a bbroad brush and never face reality that she's wrong. Nothing will save people like her. She will point the finger and accuse the other side with everything she is actually guilty of. And the christmas tree class warfare, welfare idiots and media will buy it hook, line and sinker.
Originally Posted by cmdrdredd
January 27th, 2013 10:28 AM
Smoke and mirrors she's asking for the world but WILL settle for what will really hurts us. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. We need to bite first and start giving up stuff that matters not to us. We can't just wait and see we have to push this stuff in a direction we can live with. WE all that's every man woman and child ( yeah we need to involve the kids in a very positive way) They are our future. Need to start our own dialog now it's got to be more positive than the same old NRA BS. They are used to that and are ready to make us look stupid with it.
There are Billions of tax and income dollars at stake. hundreds of thousands out of work because of her stuff and that's not just here it's world wide. Take the magazines we all read are you going to read them if you can't have what they are selling? NO! That's just one little item. Go look at all the small businesses there are just in your state that are involved with what we do. That's a lot of people across the country. I don't think this Witch has a clue to what damage shes is going to do to those families across the US. "THEY" are out of touch with reality and are going to hurt the economy and depress it even more. As well as having a whole bunch of pissed off citizens just waiting for the next election to show them how pissed off we are. But by then its too late. Have you ever seen panic when you look at her and Obama that's what you see.
We don't panic we act. That's what all of us train for defense. What do you do in a fight when someone tries to disarm you. You fight harder.
Well someone is doing their best to disarm you. Your just not recognizing the threat. They want to do just that disarm the world. So we all live in a police state. If you don't think so just look at what they are trying to do and how it looks long term.
When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.
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