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About LinkBacksIn all fairness, New York did vote these people in and only now do they finally understand they they really just don't care about their rights. Many like Doomberg, have been at it a long time. Still got in office.Originally Posted by Mike1956
This is a discussion on New Yorkers have begun to stand up. within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by Mike1956 Noteworthy that the comments no longer reflect the "haha, New Yorkers got what they deserve" attitude we have seen from some ...
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In all fairness, New York did vote these people in and only now do they finally understand they they really just don't care about their rights. Many like Doomberg, have been at it a long time. Still got in office.
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If you want to do something to help, send a donation to the NY State Rifle and Pistol Association to help with legal costs.
http://nysrpa.kintera.org/donate
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I admit that I didn't read all the posts in this thread so if this has been covered I apologize. I found it interesting that in the video State Senator Diaz admitted that the bill won't do anything as a practical matter, but he feels it helps work on the minds of the people. He basically says they need to change people's attitudes about guns. I agree that this is a big part of the anti's efforts. They will still try to pass laws that are as restrictive as possible, while at the same time they are hoping that the number of gun owners and potential future gun owners will begin to see guns as evil and therefore will no longer be gun owners, or at least will willingly go along with more and more restrictive laws. Unfortunately this may just work.
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It seems the tough talk has found its way to the legislative chambers. Its sorely needed if these law-makers are going to get the message of exactly what it is that they started, but this may be the true test of whether law enforcement will hold up their end of either defending the constitution or blindly following the orders of Comrade Cuomo. Hold your breath kiddies, this could be the start.
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That's a very good idea above. Also join multiple pro-gun orgs (NRA, goa, saf, etc). It bolsters their resources for the work and effort they can do in NY, or any other hotspot state.
Turn the election's in 2014 to a "2A Revolution". It will serve as a 1994 refresher not to "infringe" on our Second Amendment. We know who they are now.........SEND 'EM HOME.
If everyone in the state that was opposed sent their law makers an anonymous envolope with an empty shell casing in it, perhaps that would get the point across.
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Better late than never!
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Yeah I noticed that as well. The haha died out when others saw they might be faced with the same BS :) But hopefully that is not going anywhere in Congress because I do not wish our laws on anyone.
We have some things laid out on another forum, NYFirearms.com. Some members might be going that route, and willing to be locked up. So we will see how it all plans out soon.
This is inaccurate. Very much so. The NYC elitists voted these people in and that is how they remain in office. NYC and the rest of the State have opposite views on guns, and our 2nd amendment rights apparently.idiot was just able to swing all the votes in the middle of the night in the fashion that he did.
Yes that is the answer about Diaz. And he's proposed many outrageous things in the past. No one pays him any attention..
Anyway. We are still organizing ourselves, another rally is coming up in Albany in February. The NY State Sheriff Association just sent out this letter to Cuomo.
NBC-WKTV News Channel 2 | Utica, NY News, Weather and Sports | New York State Sheriffs' Association responds to SAFE Act |
We are waiting for NRA and other NY organizations to formally get things going legally. Because they are the only ones with the $ to take this as high as it needs to go in the courts here in NYS.
So we will see! State Police are looking to hire 330 new troopers this year. Tin foil hat people are saying that's the new SS... others just realize that they have been understaffed.
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What's likely to come next is violence. I don't advocate it. I do believe it will happen. Many people are sheep, and will just lay down. Not everyone. I believe that if the police begin confiscating firearms door to door, they will eventually meet armed resistance. Someone, somewhere will decide that their right to live free is more important than their own life. What comes next then, just might be a revolution. It may seem far-fetched, because we are so ensconced in the relative comfort of our lives, but throughout history people have stood up against tyranny. The times we live in are no different. I sincerely hope that our lawmakers change their attitudes, and begin to respect the will and rights of the people.
When and if it does come down, every one who refuses to comply will be, by definition, a domestic terrorist. Fortunately, the rules of this forum do not allow speculation on whether we will be sheep, or terrorists.
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Good for you New York. Keep pounding on the people who hold Public Office there. Never give up. They were voted in, and can be removed by your next round of votes.
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Yep, tyrants always have and always will try and label the people who stand up against them as terrorists or unpatriotic traitors. Fortunately, the brave men who led the revolution that brought about the birth of this nation did not wilt under such accusations. The way to make changes in our society is through the rule of law. Defending the constitution should be done peacefully. My point is, when the lawmakers choose to disregard the unalienable rights of the people, they will have created a new playing field, and the rules will only apply to those who go along quietly.
Ah gee, the New American is a publication of the John Birch society, a fringe group of fascists. Just how does this help our cause with the majority of gun owners, let alone the majority of Americans. It simply reinforces the idea that 2A supporters are fringe, racist fanatics who do not know that the commies already lost
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