My Proposed Constitutional Amendment: Making the 2nd Amendment Stronger

My Proposed Constitutional Amendment: Making the 2nd Amendment Stronger

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    My Proposed Constitutional Amendment: Making the 2nd Amendment Stronger

    The 2nd Amendment is being interpreted to apply to individuals' right to bear arms by the Supreme Court. But the wording of the 2nd is still considered vague enough by both the court and many politicians that enough restrictions can be but in place to create de facto blanket bans on firearms in certain places (NYC, DC, Chicago, Hawaii, etc). The court is also 1 justice away from overturning DC v. Heller and allowing both the states AND the federal government to ban and confiscate all firearms.

    I wonder, if a 28th Amendment would be the best way to cement the individual right to bear arms. The 2nd seems pretty clear, but there's so much disinformation and flat out falsehoods about it (and guns in general), that a lot of people are brainwashed about it. I would propose the 28th to read something like this:

    Article 1: The 2nd Amendment of the Constitution shall be understood by all federal, state, and local government entities to protect the right of all individual citizens and legal permanent residents to bear arms of all kinds for all legal purposes including hunting, sport shooting, defense of self, others, and property, as well as defense of state and nation when necessary.

    Article 2: No federal, state, or local government and/or law enforcement entity shall deny a law abiding citizen or legal permanent resident the right to keep firearms in his home, or to carry a firearm concealed in public, for any reason other than by current standing court decision that the individual, due to conviction of a felony crime, being adjudicated mentally defective, conviction of domestic violence, or having a current restraining order against said person, cannot possess a firearm. Governments or agencies wishing to issue permits for carry must do so within 30 days of application. Governments or agencies wishing to issue permits for carry may not charge an unreasonable fee for a permit, nor may entities require unreasonable steps or actions to acquire a permit, nor may the permit be revoked for any reason other than court decision, nor may the permit be valid for an unreasonably short period of time.

    Article 3: No firearm or firearm accessory shall be prohibited by any federal, state, or local government agency for individual possession and lawful use, nor any limit on the number of firearms or firearm accessories an individual may own. There shall be no limit on ammunition feeding device capacity, nor any limit on the amount of ammunition that an individual may possess or acquire at any given time, nor any kind of rifle or pistol ammunition prohibited for individual possession. Exceptions to this article shall be destructive devices including grenades, grenade launchers, rocket and missile launchers, and pistol ammunition specifically designed to defeat the highest level of individual armor protection. The federal government may also have the ability to regulate the sale and possession of weapons specifically designed for fully automatic fire.

    Article 4: Any law abiding citizen or legal permanent resident may purchase any kind of long gun or handgun in any state or United States territory provided a proper background check can be performed.


    There, it's a nearly impenetrable wall against all forms of unreasonable gun control. It gives everyone the right to bear any kind of arms, including the dreaded "assault weapons" (which, as we know, are not), it keeps the ban on felons possessing firearms, allows background checks, and it allows governments to put some kinds of restrictions on machine guns (though it still allows for private ownership). It's free, but it has "reasonable" gun control. It's immigrant friendly, too. If a convention was called in each state, I have little doubt such an amendment would pass in at least the 38 states needed for ratification. It's getting it through Congress with 2/3 votes that would be the problem...
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    Re: My Proposed Constitutional Amendment: Making the 2nd Amendment Stronger

    Thanks, but no.
    The one we got's just fine, and yours is not by any means impenetrable. For example, define "proper."
    Rats!
    It could be worse!
    I suppose

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    No way. I don't like remakes of movies nor do i like a re wording of the Constitution
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    Why Bother ?

    If they are already ignoring and violating the original why would they bother to obey one created on top of laws they control with corrupt lawyers, prosecutors and judiciary ?

    Our time would be better spent forcing them to comply with Constitutional restrictions on govt the original Bill of Rights places on the traitors but that will require force of will not just words. They are willing to come to your home and arrest you and kill you if you resist. What are you ready to do in your own defense to their corruption and treason besides talk about laws ?

    Yes.. it's already come to that because of their actions against us, not because we did anything wrong.

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    The 28th amendment should repeal the 16th amendment.
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    '...shall not be infringed' has explicit meaning. Anything less would be uncivilized.

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    It's fine how it is now.

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    Sometimes it is best to leave well enough alone...if it an't broke; don't fix it!
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    The problem isn't the vagueness of the 2A. Other writings from the framers of the constitution make it very clear what their intent was, and the wording of the 2A is also very clear, once it is known what certain words used actually meant at that time. The problem is with politicians and judges who intentionally go against the Constitution or try to circumvent it altogether. That's what we need to work on.

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    I'll stick with this one: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Shot View Post
    The 28th amendment should repeal the 16th amendment.
    Word.
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    Does any state have a regulated militia?

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    I like the idea, the thought behind it. But as it stands it would almost be impossible to pass this amendment without anti gun types trying to change it, limit it, or add an amendment of their own which would completely defeat the purpose of the 2nd amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uberrogue View Post
    Does any state have a regulated militia?
    Yep, sure do. It's the armed, able bodied citizens.

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    I also vote no.... Your re-write of the 2nd amendment has infringements in it.(such as background checks).
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    Second Amendment -- Established December 15, 1791 and slowly eroded ever since What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."

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