This is a discussion on DHS orders 7000 Assault Rifles within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; ...directly related to firearms...and keeping ours... Originally Posted by Smitty901 I will pass on this one let someone else get a demerit point ....
Trust in God and keep your powder dry
"A heavily armed citizenry is not about overthrowing the government; it is about preventing the government from overthrowing liberty. A people stripped of their right of self defense is defenseless against their own government." -source
They just want to be able to get some for themselves before they put all of the black rifle makers out of business.
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It is surely true that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Nor can you make them grateful for your efforts.
So, that's where all the 5.56 ammo is. No wonder we can't find any for our personal defense.
Duty, Honor, Country...MEDIC!!!
¡Cuánto duele crecer, cuan hondo es el dolor de alzarse en puntillas y observar con temblores de angustia, esa cosa tremenda, que es la vida del hombre! - René Marqués
So if I get on government assistance, can I opt for a ObamAR instead of an Obamaphone?
If the Union is once severed, the line of separation will grow wider and wider, and the controversies which are now debated and settled in the halls of legislation will then be tried in fields of battle and determined by the sword.
If you can't see the hypocrisy for yourself, no amount of pointing it out is going to do any good. You either see it as hypocritical or you don't. I personally see it, and wonder how anyone couldn't...but that's how perspective goes.
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No Guns, No Safety, No Peace.
I understand that the DHS stating an assault weapon is a good defensive weapon and purchasing a lot of them while the VP is telling citizens a shotgun is better is hypocrisy.
...no paranoia...just the facts...and BIGTIME hypocrisy...the gooberment tells We the People we don't need AR rifles and Hi-cap mags, they aren't good for self-defense...etc, etc...then orders them and says they're for "self-defence"...anytime a government wants to take legal weapons away from citizens, then arm themselves with the same...we have cause for concern...now, if they'd ordered 7000 double-barrelled 12 gauges...it'd be a different story...and different reception...( guess the British spelling of "defence" was just a Freudian slip...)
If ‘Assault Weapons’ Are Bad…Why Does DHS Want to Buy 7,000 of Them for ‘Personal Defense’?
Jan. 26, 2013 2:30pm Jason Howerton
Source: If ?Assault Weapons? Are Bad?Why Does DHS Want to Buy 7,000 of Them for ?Personal Defense?? | TheBlaze.com
The Department of Homeland Security is seeking to acquire 7,000 5.56x45mm NATO “personal defense weapons” (PDW) — also known as “assault weapons” when owned by civilians. The solicitation, originally posted on June 7, 2012, comes to light as the Obama administration is calling for a ban on semi-automatic rifles and high capacity magazines.
Citing a General Service Administration (GSA) request for proposal (RFP), Steve McGough of RadioViceOnline.com reports that DHS is asking for the 7,000 “select-fire” firearms because they are “suitable for personal defense use in close quarters.” The term select-fire means the weapon can be both semi-automatic and automatic. Civilians are prohibited from obtaining these kinds of weapons.
The RFP describes the firearm as “Personal Defense Weapon (PDW) – 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and/or when maximum concealment is required.” Additionally, DHS is asking for 30 round magazines that “have a capacity to hold thirty (30) 5.56x45mm NATO rounds.”
Republican New York state Sen. Greg Ball also issued a press release this week bringing attention to the weapons purchase request.
Calls made to DHS seeking information regarding whether or not the RFP was accepted and fulfilled were not immediately returned on Saturday.
Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) on Thursday introduced legislation that would enact a so-called “assault weapons” ban. The bill would ban more than 150 firearms and limit magazines to 10 rounds. There is no expiration date on Feinstein’s bill.
Get all the details on the bill, including a list of firearms that would be banned, here.
DHS Asks for 7,000 5.56x45mm NATO Personal Defense Weapons Also Known as Assault Weapons
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. speaks during a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Jan. 24, 2013, to introduce legislation on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devices. Congressional Democrats are reintroducing legislation to ban assault weapons but the measure faces long odds even after last month’s mass school shooting in Newtown, Conn. The measure being unveiled Thursday is authored by Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, who wrote the original assault weapons ban. That law expired in 2004 when Congress refused to renew it under pressure from the National Rifle Association. Credit: AP
Critics of such a ban on semi-automatic rifles are already arguing that the government is showing its hypocrisy by essentially saying they are good “personal defense” for them, but not for American citizens. When civilians own semi-automatic rifles, they somehow become “assault weapons.”
That being said, it is reasonable for the Department of Homeland Security to request these rifles as they are indeed effective personal defense weapons. The agency is tasked with keeping Americans safe from those who wish to do the country harm, and its officials should be equipped with all the tools they need to do so effectively.
But what about Americans who want to keep themselves and their families safe from threats? Is a semi-automatic rifle unacceptable for a civilian’s “personal defense” in his or her home? According to some Democratic lawmakers, like Sen. Feinstein, it appears the answer is yes.
Just last week two students in Rochester, N.Y. scared off a pair of home intruders by simply brandishing an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle. One of the students said he believes the weapon saved their lives.
Is there a pattern here? Just askin.
Ten Bears: It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men.
I don't object to them having them, just them telling me I shouldn't.
Know Guns, Know Safety, Know Peace.
No Guns, No Safety, No Peace.
FLETC's "about" page: "The FLETC serves as an interagency law enforcement training organization for 91 Federal agencies." They are the go-to agency to train other agencies.
I have no problem whatsoever with these weapons being purchased for the DHS. In fact, I'm grateful that they were purchased for "personal defense". It makes a very powerful argument against the proposed federal legislation.