January 28th, 2013 02:42 AM
This is to "ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited."
So Senator Feinstein wants to change the 2nd amendment with her unconstitutional law.
Link to a copy of her proposed bill
I have a question concerning this bill. Am I to understand that if someone has an AR15 with only 1 military characteristic(such as a grip) and a 10 round magazine it would be legal under this bill????
"One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation."
--Thomas B. Reed, American Attorney
Second Amendment -- Established December 15, 1791
and slowly eroded ever since What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."
January 28th, 2013 04:31 AM
She can limit legal actions with legislation. California is proof of that. But she can't limit the right to keep and bear arms. That is a natural right. The second amendment protects the people from a mob's confiscations under the banner of government.
Americans understood the right of self-preservation as permitting a citizen to repel force by force
when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
-Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)
January 28th, 2013 05:11 AM
I'm so glad we have such smart and brave politicians to protect us from these evil weapons of war! I feel so much safer already!
January 28th, 2013 06:48 AM
From what I understand is that only one characteristic would make any gun illegal as opposed to the two that were required under the old law that expired.
January 28th, 2013 08:11 AM
Yes, unless the person already has it lawfully prior to implementation of this proposed AWB. (If I'm reading it correctly.)
Originally Posted by Crowman
Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 (proposed): summary, and bill text.
For reference and comparison, here is the text of the 1994 bill, the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, aka the 1994 AWB.
Basically, if implemented, "assault weapon" will have a new definition (in Sec 921(a) 18 USC):
- A semi-auto rifle with detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
- (i) A pistol grip.
- (ii) A forward grip.
- (iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.
- (iv) A grenade launcher or rocket launcher.
- (v) A barrel shroud.
- (vi) A threaded barrel.
- A semi-auto rifle that has a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (excluding rimfire .22).
- A semi-auto pistol with detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
- (i) A threaded barrel.
- (ii) A second pistol grip.
- (iii) A barrel shroud.
- (iv) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside the pistol grip.
- (v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
- A semi-auto pistol with a fixed magazine of more than 10 rounds.
- A semi-auto shotgun that has any 1 of the following:
- (i) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.
- (ii) A pistol grip.
- (iii) A fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds.
- (iv) The ability to accept a detachable magazine.
- (v) A forward grip.
- (vi) A grenade launcher or rocket launcher.
- All of the following rifles, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles:
- (i) All AK types, including AK47, AK74, AKM, etc.
- (ii) All AR types, including AR-10, AR-15, etc.
And, if implemented, such "assault weapons" are effectively banned (per Sec 922 18 USC):
- Bans the importing, selling, manufacture, transferring and possession of semi-auto assault weapons (if it affects interstate or foreign commerce).
- This ban shall not apply to semi-auto assault weapons otherwise lawfully possessed under Federal law on the date of enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013.
- It shall also not apply to military, law enforcement, etc. (Basically, everyone other than civilians.)
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
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January 28th, 2013 08:14 AM
This woman is insane. How is she elected to represent the people? I also think she reminds me of the church lady (Dana Carvey) from Saturday Night Live!
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(1) Ruger LC9
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January 28th, 2013 08:18 AM
By looking at this picture is this woman even alive ?? Looks like she would be a good candidate for the next "Scream" movie.
Feinstein: Gun control faces uphill climb
January 28th, 2013 08:49 AM
This bill, to me, looks completely meaningless and stupid, obviously designed by somebody who has no understanding of firearms, their operation, and truly thinks they're dangerous based solely on looks. I've heard her say before that pistol grips are dangerous because it allows the shooter to easily fire from the hip. Well I must say that's completely INSANE for a few reasons. First off, I much prefer that if somebody was shooting at me, that they'd be doing it from the hip. I'd probably have time to point and laugh at them seeing as though they're not likely to easily hit their intended target. And how does a pistol grip making firing from the hip easier? You hold a shotgun with a regular fixed stock at your hip, and then one with a pistol grip, and you tell me which is easier. The pistol grip puts your hand and wrist at a very awkward angle. Pistol grips, at least for me, are intended to put your wrist at a much more desirable angle when shooting from your shoulder. How do ergonomics make a firearm more dangerous? Forward grip, again, dangerous ergonomics!
Originally Posted by ccw9mm
It's just complete, senseless, meaningless nonsense that will do nothing to prevent anything. Only make people who are against guns somehow feel safer since all of those scarey looking guns are banned. the murder rate will PLUMMET!
January 28th, 2013 09:00 AM
Especially when you consider that the ATF determined that Pistol Grips do have a sporting purpose.
Originally Posted by RKM
January 28th, 2013 11:17 AM
I hope I am not the only one who sat here for quite some time and read the WHOLE thing... is it just me or did they pull the "allowed" rifles out of a history book? Maybe it is just my young age, but I have never heard of half of those "allowed" rifles or at least the companies that produce them, and I am sure that if you did find them somewhere they would cost a pretty penny. Jesus this woman is an idiot...
January 28th, 2013 11:28 AM
I don't trust anyone with beady eyes and bloated face.
US Army 1953-1977
‘‘We, the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts — not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.’’
— Abraham Lincoln
January 28th, 2013 11:32 AM
No problem - this bill will almost instantly create at least a hundred million criminals in this country. Criminals do not have to obey any stinken laws. Therefore we have nothing to worry about since we will all be criminals.
Ten Bears: It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men.
January 28th, 2013 11:35 AM
She's just mad that she took a bullet.
-You know Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help.
-Susie, if you want to see your doll again, leave $100 in this envelope by the tree out front. Do not call the police. You cannot trace us. You cannot find us. Sincerely, Calvin
January 28th, 2013 11:42 AM
suppositories don't count.
Originally Posted by FUZZ
January 28th, 2013 02:58 PM
One word - California. "nuff said.
Originally Posted by mbguy29577
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