This is a discussion on Here's an interesting aspect to any ban within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Originally Posted by cayman_shen What a nauseating comment. Slavery aside, the war was about states rights vs the fed, people having their property taken and ...
Any politician who has no qualms about trampling on the second amendment will have no problem disregarding the rest of them.
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I suspect that this. or rather the zeitgeist (dominant school of thought that typifies and influences the culture) that requires people to do so is at least in part a reflection of why many impoverished, urban areas of blight are predominantly black. We've created a culture that enables people to claim things like, "because my great great great grandfather was a slave, society owes me.", rather than one that encourage progress. It has become a culture that feeds upon and nourishes itself. What it has done is perpetuate many of these people to a new form of slavery. Many of these places have become a God awful trap, from which there is little hope of escape and we wonder why violence is such a problem in these areas? To continue to speak of the subject of slavery in hushed tones, to pretend that it did not exist, to continue to apologize for it, and so forth do not recognize it as a wrong, but only give it more power.
To answer the question of what to do about it, is to also answer the question of what to do about gun violence. Somehow we need to find ways to end the cycle of poverty. The Conservative view of this is to cut off the feed supply and hope that they become motivated. Unfortunately this won't work any more than the Iraqis rose up and formed a modern Democracy after the fall of Saddam. The Liberal answer is to create spending programs to educate and provide better living. This doesn't work either, nor are there enough resources available to do so. The problem is complex and I wish I had a solution, Ultimately they are going to have to find a way to break the cycle of poverty and violence and grow their local economies. Undoubtedly some form of help will be required.
If nothing else, comparing the states' feelings about owning slaves and modern gun ownership is a bad idea because history clearly showed that the slave owners were dead wrong and the govt did the right and moral thing in taking their property for the good of others (namely the slaves). I don't want anyone to say 'in two hundred years, you guys will look just as misguided as the slave owners.' It muddies the issue, and it's certainly not an argument I'll use when speaking with my anti friends.
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