Fienstien Bill BANS ALL Semi Auto's

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    Fienstien Bill BANS ALL Semi Auto's

    [B]]Quote (by Alan Korwin)
    [Pro-rights and anti-rights attention has been focused on the tremendous list of guns that would be banned under Feinstein's bill, which takes up a significant portion of the 122 pages of this proposal.

    Here's the problem none of the "news" reports have spotted:

    The list of guns doesn't matter.
    Magazine size doesn't matter.
    If the semi-auto firearm has anything to grip it by, it is banned.
    It's very clever actually.

    According to the bill, any semiautomatic firearm that uses a magazine -- handgun, rifle or shotgun -- equipped with a "pistol grip," would be banned. That sounds like a limitation, but it is not.

    A pistol grip (on page 2) is defined (on page 13) as "a grip, a thumb-hole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip." In other words, the gun list does not matter. It is a smokescreen designed to distract people from the true meaning of the bill. And it has done a magnificent job. It worked!

    Any semi-automatic firearm that exists, with anything on it you can grip, is banned. (There is a grandfather clause for old stuff.)

    The list is meaningless tripe. It is camouflage for the real purpose of the bill. When the president said he is not going to take away your guns, well, Feinstein's bill puts the lie to that.

    Magazine size does not matter. Brand name does not matter. It doesn't matter if it's black. If you can grip it, it's banned under this bill.
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    GUN BAN COVER-UP: If the semi-auto firearm has anything to grip it by, it is banned... | by Alan Korwin | RedFlagNews.com

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    Did you actually read the bill?

    ‘‘(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capac22
    ity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the
    23 following:
    24 ‘‘(i) A pistol grip.
    25 ‘‘(ii) A forward grip.
    3
    OLL13052 S.L.C.
    1 ‘‘(iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable
    2 stock.
    3 ‘‘(iv) A grenade launcher or rocket launch4
    er.
    5 ‘‘(v) A barrel shroud.
    6 ‘‘(vi) A threaded barrel.


    Here is what it says about pistols, do you see anything about a first grip.

    ‘‘(D) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ca18
    pacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of
    19 the following:
    20 ‘‘(i) A threaded barrel.
    21 ‘‘(ii) A second pistol grip.
    22 ‘‘(iii) A barrel shroud.
    23 ‘‘(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable
    24 magazine at some location outside of the pistol
    25 grip.
    4
    OLL13052 S.L.C.
    1 ‘‘(v) A semiautomatic version of an auto2
    matic firearm.
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    I guess my Walther P22 would be banned.

    A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:
    20 ‘‘(i) A threaded barrel.
    21 ‘‘(ii) A second pistol grip.
    22 ‘‘(iii) A barrel shroud.
    23 ‘‘(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable
    24 magazine at some location outside of the pistol 25 grip.

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    Here's a summary of the proposed limitations, with links to the S.150 bill text: click.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
    Thoughts: Justifiable self defense (A.O.J.).
    Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
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    It will never pass anyways. Even the demos agree on that.
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    Re: Fienstien Bill BANS ALL Semi Auto's

    Wait a minute... A semi-auto already has a detachable magazine, that's a give. Could they not also consider the top of the frame and the slide a "barrel shroud?" I mean, it does, in both parts, cover the barrel in its entirety. Would that, in itself, ban ALL semi-auto handguns

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    Re: Fienstien Bill BANS ALL Semi Auto's

    No, some are tube fed.


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    Fienstiens old as dirt shouldnt it be ready to keel over by now? And leave well enough alone.

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    America needs a bill to ban all old fart's in congress who do not work, get lifetime benefits, and adhere to a different standard!
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    So according to post no. 2 almost all semi autos are banned?
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    Fienstien Bill BANS ALL Semi Auto's

    Term limits
    Could have got rid of Charle Wrangle,
    Barry Frank, Queen Nancy as well as some senators like Ted Kennedy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashamans View Post
    So according to post no. 2 almost all semi autos are banned?
    No read the bill and refer to post # 2 about pistols.
    "As a strong supporter of our 2nd Amendment rights, I believe tougher enforcement of our nation's existing gun laws must be done before any more laws are enacted and put on the books."
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    We need a gun bill that says "No more gun bills."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetfuelrm View Post
    No read the bill and refer to post # 2 about pistols.
    Yes it says any that could take a threaded barrel, or all handguns with a removal barrel, or all handguns really

    Any semi rifle that can take a adj stock so all rifles

    It says capacity to not one with it installed
    Guns don't kill people, Guns save Lives.

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