Natl. Sheriff's Assn. Announces They Will Not Support Unconstitutional Gun

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    These sheriffs are welcome in my house any day. Nice short video.

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    Good on them. Nice to see them speak out today. I wish this would be picked up by the National News, but it will probably be ignored.

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    Nice to see

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    Good but we are not done yet. We need to keep up our pressure to preserve our rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBuckwheat View Post
    Good but we are not done yet. We need to keep up our pressure to preserve our rights.
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    I keep saying our best and first line of defense is at the state and local level. We need to support these law enforcement agencies who speak out as a group. Agencies like this one, Utah State Sheriff's Assoc. and others are an important voice when they speak out as an organization instead of just individual officers.

    It's one thing for door to door gun grabbers to worry about facing resistence by armed homeowners who may take a stand But it's something else entirely for federal officers to face their peers, and meet resistence by state and local law enforcement agencies. Now they have to worry about being shot or arrested, and prosecuted by state governments acting under the color of lawfully enacted legislation in their respective states.

    For the feds to go at it alone, and without the assistance of local law enforcement, and know they will be facing arrest, being jailed and prosecuted should give people in DC some pause and to reconsider just what they are really wishing to accomplish.

    These agencies are stepping up to the plate and putting the feds on notice (before hand), they will act on this type of behavior. The more law enforcement agencies and organizations who step up "as a group" and put the feds on notice, the more impact it will have. People in congress should be stepping back, raising an eyebrow and taking note. Especially the congressional members who are from the states these organizations are part of. They are not going to want to end up being on the wrong side of something which will result in the bloodshed of Americans. Not just citizens, but law enforcement officers on both sides. People who have done nothing wrong, and nothing illegal until what is considered as unconstitutional infringement, and overstep.

    This country has put up with a lot of infringement, regulations, restrictions over the years. We willingly gave up things like machine guns, short barreled weapons, certain imported weapons and have made concessions time and time again. Each time, they always come back and ask for more. Each time, they say what they are doing now is going to be enough to change the situation and somehow turn bad people into good people.

    Now they come back again and are starting to ask for the absurd. Some want all semi-autos banned. Some want anything with a grip on the weapon to be banned or restricted. Now they aren't happy with 10 round restrictions... now we have places like NY actually passing laws with a 7 round restriction. Are they serious? They want to restrict, or register almost any feature which makes a firearm, a firearm. Yes, now they are being absolutely absurd in what they want to control. Now they are intentionally ignoring reality, fact, common sense and logic. They demonstrate to most intelligent people, a complete lacking of mental capacity. They have simply reduced to a mob frenzy with a blood thirsty lust for power and on a quest to stiffle freedom. They don't even care what it looks like to normal people anymore. They stand before the public with straight faces (looking like a bunch of Stepford wives), and try to make us think we're the crazy people. Is there a word for these people? Zombies, perhaps?
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    That's good. But when you think about it, aren't ALL gun laws, unconstitutional? Who's to say which laws are constitutional?

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    I wanto hear more from Chief of Police organizations. They seem to be the worse when it comes to supporting anti gun legislation.at least from the places I have lived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    I wanto hear more from Chief of Police organizations. They seem to be the worse when it comes to supporting anti gun legislation.at least from the places I have lived.
    That's because Chiefs of Police and Fire Chiefs are two of the most purely political positions within local municiple governments. They are two of the highest ranking positions of "hired personnel" within a local government. While they usually have an employment contract, they essentially work for the politics of the current mayor and city council or board of some sorts.

    Sheriff's are almost always "elected positions" and as such, have the support of the people who elected them. That dynamic often times allows them (the Sheriff's), the opportunity to support the positions held of the public as oppposed to some corrupt politician.

    The bottom line is, everyone want's to keep their jobs. They just go about it in different ways. Some like to kiss ass and others tend to stand up and be counted... (pardon the pun).
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    I wanto hear more from Chief of Police organizations. They seem to be the worse when it comes to supporting anti gun legislation.at least from the places I have lived.


    ^^^I think that could be said^^^^^^

    For most major metropolitan areas.
    Smaller towns and suburbs are usually quite different.
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    Just an FYI..
    Most State constitutions differ widely from the Bill of Rights on the right to keep and bear arms. You should take into account what state constitutions they already swore to uphold before accepting this blindly.. If they already swore to uphold one that is in direct conflict with the BOR you have to wonder which oath they will choose to obey and how much actual honor is really involved. This makes wonderful media play but is it true ? FTR Florida's constitution directly conflicts with the BOR and Arkansas's constitution limits the right to only for the people's "common defense"

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    I wanto hear more from Chief of Police organizations. They seem to be the worse when it comes to supporting anti gun legislation.at least from the places I have lived.
    Not our chief. We are fortunate to have him. Shoots IDPA with us. Brought out a 460 once. Good man.

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    Good guys upholding the supreme law of the land. Excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamYanky View Post
    Just an FYI..
    Most State constitutions differ widely from the Bill of Rights on the right to keep and bear arms. You should take into account what state constitutions they already swore to uphold before accepting this blindly.. If they already swore to uphold one that is in direct conflict with the BOR you have to wonder which oath they will choose to obey and how much actual honor is really involved. This makes wonderful media play but is it true ? FTR Florida's constitution directly conflicts with the BOR and Arkansas's constitution limits the right to only for the people's "common defense"

    Just sayin.. DamYanky
    These states are united under the U.S. Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land. The Second Amendment (and entire BOR) was applied to the States via the 14th Amendment, shortly after the Civil War. Therefore, state constitutions can provide more protection than the BOR, but not less. I think 'shall not be infringed' is explicit. Any laws that infringe on our RKBA are unconstitutional and invalid.

    Anybody who sees that a state constitution conflicts with the U.S. Constitution should also know that one supercedes the other.

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    It's good to see more and more individual LE officials as well as LE organizations speak out and say they will not enforce any of these unconstitutional laws. I think, or at least I hope that we will keep seeing this trend.

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