Encouragement, on CNN

Encouragement, on CNN

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    Encouragement, on CNN

    "Gun focus shifts from ban to checks and trafficking" is the headline of this CNN piece, and from the text I take much encouragement that there are brighter minds at work keeping our Second Amendment rights preserved -- and they are called "American citizens". Although it contains some information we all would question (such as a victim of a shooting counting rounds and stating that a smaller magazine would've saved a particular victim) , the article is not an op-ed piece but is instead reporting rather than preaching.

    "The multi-faceted proposal provided Congress with options on legislation, enhancing chances of passing some provisions, said Lanae Erickson Hatalsky, director of social policy and politics at Third Way, a Washington think tank that proposes policy compromises on major issues.
    While her group supports a renewed ban on military style weapons, Erickson Hatalsky said "political reality" dictated a different approach.
    "Keeping guns out of the wrong hands is not only more politically palatable but also more effective to stop gun violence," she explained.
    That strategy reflects "an understanding of gun crime in the country," she added.
    Opinion polls back up her assertion.

    "Earlier this week, White House spokesman Jay Carney made clear that the goal was progress on reducing gun violence, rather than any specific provision.
    Carney called proposals backed by legislators from both parties "the first progress we've seen in many, many years dealing with gun violence." But none of the measures he mentioned -- expanded background checks, cracking down on gun trafficking, criminalizing "straw" purchases in which legal buyers obtain weapons for those unable to do so -- included a new ban on semi-automatic weapons.
    NRA President Bob Keene said he expected few substantive changes in law because "people are smarter than politicians," which means "common sense ultimately prevails."


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    Gun focus shifts from ban to checks and trafficking - CNN.com
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    This is a good sign that the debate is at least moving in the right direction. I did find this paragraph from the article interesting:

    Carney called proposals backed by legislators from both parties "the first progress we've seen in many, many years dealing with gun violence." But none of the measures he mentioned -- expanded background checks, cracking down on gun trafficking, criminalizing "straw" purchases in which legal buyers obtain weapons for those unable to do so -- included a new ban on semi-automatic weapons.

    Do they not even know that "straw" purchases are already illegal??? If they feel straw purchases are still a problem then that indicates that they are not effectively enforcing the law. So many of the current problems with people getting guns who shouldn't have them would be solved (to the extent that laws can solve the problem) almost overnight if they would just enforce the law!

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    Don't be just yet.......... We still have an uphill battle on our hands.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowman View Post
    Don't be just yet.......... We still have an uphill battle on our hands.........
    Yes we do. If ANY of these proposals pass our uphill battle will be starting from farther down slope in the future.
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    "Gun focus shifts from ban to checks and trafficking"
    Don't you believe it. Last I checked, S.150 is still there (along with dozens of other similar uglified variants across the country), and those pushing it are bracing for a long, drawn-out fight.

    The day S.150 and every other liberty-hating attempt to eviscerate the Constitution is erased, and the day all such oath breakers are removed from their temporary seats of power, will be the day I raise my glass in a silent toast to the temporary reprieve. But the fight will never be over, so long as anyone in our country utters a cry for restrictions on liberty of the sort we've been hearing for decades.
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    Until/unless the SCOTUS rules that magazine capacity limits and the banning of tacticool semi-auto rifles are unconstitutional, we will be fighting this battle like a revolving door. The problem is if the SCOTUS upholds draconian laws on such measures, then there will be nothing stopping them from completely gutting the 2A all together. If one or two justices retire in the next 4 years and Obama gets to appoint new ones, we're hosed.
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    This fight aint over, the enemy is in the bush re-stocking, re-loading and preparing for the next charge...

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    I'm reading more and more comments on articles where people who identify themselves and either liberal or democrat are gun owners who do NOT support gun control. Many are fighting it, and are changing their political affiliation because of it. I'm glad to see some supporters waking up and realizing what it happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksgunner View Post
    This fight aint over, the enemy is in the bush re-stocking, re-loading and preparing for the next charge...
    It is never over. Never has been, never will be.

    Let's keep our eyes on the ball. It's not about guns or gun control. Like a magician; the progressive socialist's are masters in the art of distraction.
    It's ALL about a complete erosion of all rights.
    It's about taking away all rights to Life & liberty, thereby making the pursuit of happiness a thing of the past.

    It's about continuing to place more and more Americans on a steady diet of government cheese.

    It's about dividing all Americans into (2) groups, the "Haves" and the "Have Nots"; with the "Have Nots" becoming the majority w/o a voice.

    So many battles..so little time.
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