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Ann Coulter - January 9, 2013 - DOING THE RESEARCH THE NEW YORK TIMES WON'T DOIn Sunday's New York Times, Elisabeth Rosenthal claimed, as the title of her article put it, "More Guns = More Killing." She based this on evidence that would never be permitted in any other context at the Times: (1) anecdotal observations; and (2) bald assertions of an activist, blandly repeated with absolutely no independent fact-checking by the Times.
There is an academic, peer-reviewed, long-term study of the effect of various public policies on public, multiple shootings in all 50 states over a 20-year period performed by renowned economists at the University of Chicago and Yale, William Landes and John Lott. It concluded that the only policy to reduce the incidence of, and casualties from, mass shootings are concealed-carry laws. The Times will never mention this study.
She does have a way with words.So there you have it: The cock crowed, then the sun came up. Therefore, the cock's crowing caused the sun to come up. Rosenthal went to Harvard Medical School.
Please do not turn this into a "Coulter Bashing" or "Hate Coulter" Thread. Even if she has Pterodactyl-like arms.
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Good article. Thanks for posting the link. I'm sending it to a bunch of people I exchange emails with, most of whom are pro-gun. There is one idiot thinks nobody but the police need "assault" weapons, but I'm working on him.
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Didn't there use to be standards of professionalism amongst journalists?
Where are their co-workers critiquing poor methods?
Don't they realize that shoddy work reflect on all of them?
Is there no shame anymore?
Interesting, I just did my own "study" on the success of Australia's gun ban, comparing it to Texas...
And they have had mass murders in Oz since the ban. One with a gun... One with an arson...
Today's useful factoids: gun control - AU vs. TX
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Why mess up perfectly good propaganda with facts??? The liberal left anti-gun politicians KNOW this stuff, they just don't care. They are brainwashing the weak-minded who will gladly drink whatever flavored kool-aid they are pushing regardless of the poison it is laced with. You can't fix that, but it is incumbent upon all of us to continue the effort to educate those who have the capacity to engage their mind.
Great article, thanks for posting it.
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Very interesting read. Thanks for posting.
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I won't use the thread to rip Ann Coulter. I will point out that to cite John Lott is to cite a paid Fox News hack. If he was a paid MSNBC hack, we'd question his credibility. Don't be upset when anti-gunners question his.
Coulter also cites Landes who works for Yale University. Do you have a problem with his research?
I said nothing about Landes because I know nothing about Landes. He wasn't relevant to my point.
It was a well written opinion piece, but most of the anti-gun crowd will dismiss it simply because it was authored by Coulter. Likewise, the pro-gun crowd doesn't need another article to substantiate their beliefs. Now, if Sarah Brady had written the same article; boy that would have gotten some knickers in knots.
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John Lott did an incredible amount of research on gun crime vioilence and self-defense. If we throw his work out, we will be left with whatever the CDC or the anti's produce which will ignore any benefit from guns at all.
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