Every Gun Control Advocate in Connecticut Showed Up

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    Every Gun Control Advocate in Connecticut Showed Up

    To call me a kid-killer. No compromise, not one inch:
    5,500 attend Connecticut gun control rally - Yahoo! News
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    I have been called "child killer" before, but it was many years ago..

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    Too much emotion and not enoughcommon sense. Victims and their families have a unique perspective that is difficult to argue with when there is a sympathetic audience. No matter the facts and common sense assertions, we will be portrayed as wanting more violence and killing when in fact, what we really want is the exact opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksgunner View Post
    I have been called "child killer" before, but it was many years ago..
    It doesn't sound any better now than it did then.
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    Every Gun Control Advocate in Connecticut Showed Up

    It's so very disturbing to see this vilification of law abiding citizens numbering in the millions. When are we going to hear from the many tens of millions of non-NRA member gun owners in this country whose 2nd Amendment rights are also under attack? I'm tired of hearing the newly invented term "gun violence." Guns are tools; psychopathic and sociopathic individuals are violent! Why is there no excoriation of the failed mental health support system in this country? Perhaps it's because there's no political will or courage to face the real issues. Knee-jerk response to violent psychopathic homicidal episodes generally serves no public good and disenfranchises those who have played by the rules their entire lives.
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    The NRA is a baby killer, hm? No, not any more than Ford is an enabler of crime merely because some criminals' getaway vehicles happen to have a blue badge on them.

    "It's not about political party or hidden agendas. It's about life," she said. "And my life and the lives of so many are now changed forever because of what guns can do in the wrong hands."
    It is about life. Exactly so.

    But sacrificing the safety and security of 300M people in the groundless hope that criminals will likewise disarm themselves is a fool's errand. That's not a path toward saving life. Quite the opposite: it's the "least common denominator" approach to creating an entire nation of potential victims incapable of effectively defending themselves.

    What we need is heavier sentencing, erasure of parole and shortened sentences for violent criminals, more effective mental health treatment and mechanisms to identify and deal with the troubled folks in our midst. What we need is to more fully arm and train citizens in the effective use of arms in their own defense, given that it's not possible for armed police to be everywhere at once. What we need is to ensure that everyone is capable of effective self-defense. What we need is to harden our common spaces (ie, schools). Disarming people so that we're all in the same defenseless boat will only serve to ensure criminals find defenseless potential victims everywhere instead of merely here and there.

    Franklin said it well: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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    We should propose a law that every anti-gunner has to move to NY,CA, IL, and I suppose you can add in CT also. Then they can live there in Utopia and leave the rest of the country in peace. I'm sure their lives will be crime free then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    It doesn't sound any better now than it did then.
    Nope, it sure doesn't....been there as well when I came back from the war. It allows seems to come from the same type of folks too.
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    these gun confiscations don't work. they know they don't work. it is a ploy to make the public need them more. this gives them more power and dependance. this thus gives them more influence on us. it is about power and control. nothing more. to think otherwise is naive and foolish.

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    The word "kid-killer", just gave me a disturbing thought:

    Would "someone" or "some group" actively stifle back meaningful legislation that could prevent school shootings in order to keep the focus strictly on gun control, and no other real solution? IOW, put politics over kids lives?

    Sadly, I know the answer to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCityChief View Post
    It's so very disturbing to see this vilification of law abiding citizens numbering in the millions. When are we going to hear from the many tens of millions of non-NRA member gun owners in this country whose 2nd Amendment rights are also under attack? I'm tired of hearing the newly invented term "gun violence." Guns are tools; psychopathic and sociopathic individuals are violent! Why is there no excoriation of the failed mental health support system in this country? Perhaps it's because there's no political will or courage to face the real issues. Knee-jerk response to violent psychopathic homicidal episodes generally serves no public good and disenfranchises those who have played by the rules their entire lives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksgunner View Post
    I have been called "child killer" before, but it was many years ago..
    Same pack of traitors though. Some things never change.

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    Let me see what those statistics really say. As the current population of Conn is 4,900,000 and 5,500 showed up for the rally (probably really less as the press is generally guilty of overstating the numbers estimated in these kinds of things), then this means that 0.0011 % of the population are concerned enough to show up. And I am sure you can include many out-of-staters that always show up at these kinds of things to make the numbers look higher in that 5,500 total estimate!! In any case not really a sizeable demonstration when you put pencil to paper.
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    So, 5,500 gun grabbers showed up... How many 2A supporters? Oh that's right, we're counting on the NRA to broker some deals in smoke filled rooms.

    Our rank and file is a bunch of fat old ceegar suckin' men that just prattle away talking, talking, talking... and the press reports what it sees... 5000 supporters of gun control ... supporters who will, in the end...""Get this done." In statehouses and perhaps in the Capitol itself.
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    From the article:
    ....also attended a recent gun rights rally at the Capitol that drew more than 2,000 people and a daylong legislative hearing on guns.
    So, some time ago, 2,000 people showed up at the statehouse to rally for guns...

    We're outnumbered 2 to 1? Looks like it was a nice warm day when we showed up, too.... Not so with the anti crowd... it was a might colder there yesterday...


    Reminds me of a bit of history...

    Washington despaired for the fate of his army. “The whole of them,” said his comrade-in-arms, Gen. John Sullivan, were “without watch coats, one half without blankets, and more than one third without shoes . . . many of them without jackets . . . and not a few without shirts.” None had enough to eat; some had gone hungry for days. Exhausted and ill, men were deserting in great numbers, heading home to their families and farms. It was a dark moment for the Revolution and for Washington. From his makeshift headquarters, he wrote to warn Congress: “unless some great and capital change suddenly takes place . . . this army must inevitably. . . starve, dissolve or disperse.”
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    Well, at least they showed up for their revolution... our leaders are "negotiating with the King(s)" And without "troops" to back up our leader's talking... it's hard to discern how much support our side has.
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