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    Exclamation Can't happen here you say...

    Next time you talk with an anti and they claim registration will not lead to confiscation show them this...

    interesting (and scary) in direct violation of the US Consittution....

    Troops Ordered To Kill All Americans Who Do Not Turn In Guns - YouTube!

    It already has and now the UN agend is in print.....
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    Anything coming from Alex Jones & Co., I have to take with a grain of salt.
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    It's an interesting read, is there anyway to authenticate the letter? I'm not saying it's false, There are a lot of nuts out there, on both sides of the fight that will fabricate things to stir the pot.
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    The document is correct. I am not going to wade into this one....AGAIN. There is a lot of history behind this document and what Kennedy really wanted from it. But for those that think Info Wars is the end all to informative news I would be wasting my breath.

    I would like to add this though. From now on, all of those that believe what Info Wars is saying on this then I would suggest that to be intellectually honest with yourselves that you stop saying "Obama is going to take our guns away". If you agree with the reporter here you need to replace that with "Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter,Reagen, Bush, Clinton, Bush, AND Obama, are coming to take our guns".
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    If you want to read the original document, it is available from archive.org:

    http://ia700200.us.archive.org/6/ite...t-1961-GOV.pdf

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    If you agree with the reporter here you need to replace that with "Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter,Reagen, Bush, Clinton, Bush, AND Obama, are coming to take our guns".
    Technically, that would be correct.

    The only difference is that they didnt hate the U.S. and everything that it stands for, like the last one does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blitzburgh View Post
    Anything coming from Alex Jones & Co., I have to take with a grain of salt.
    Ya know, I just go to the local farm supply store and get a salt lick... It's handy for reading things from the extremists on both sides.... 'Course it raises my blood pressure a bit... or is it just reading this tripe that does that? hard to know...
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    closing the net

    they have already started, i noticed the other day on the atf web page that they have stopped reviewing ex-con's request to regain their 2nd amendment rights back. no im not a con but it was rather interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowltk View Post
    If you want to read the original document, it is available from archive.org:

    http://ia700200.us.archive.org/6/ite...t-1961-GOV.pdf
    Thanks for the link. Read the document.
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    I'll have to leave this one alone. Too many liberal snoops could be waiting for ammunition for their anti freedom agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Technically, that would be correct.

    The only difference is that they didnt hate the U.S. and everything that it stands for, like the last one does.
    We went through all of this a few months ago LOL.... I am staying out of this round. I will say this:does it really matter if the person "hates" America? That just makes it easier for folks to blame Obama. But in the end, if this has been an ongoing thing, through multiple Presidencies, does the attitude of the person affect the outcome?

    Anyhoo, that piece of paper is not law, never has been law, and was never policy of the US.
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    But in the end, if this has been an ongoing thing, through multiple Presidencies, does the attitude of the person affect the outcome?
    Sure it does.

    Remember John Bolton? He consistently refused any notions of the U.N. to disarm the U.S. and told them every chance that he got. He was very vocal about it in fact.

    Enter the Obama Administration. All of a sudden He and Hillary gave the U.N. the green light telling them that they had a captive audience here in the United States that was willing to work with them for the "common good".
    All of a sudden, we went from Administrations that were against any foreign entity even talking about the Second Amendment of the U.S Constitution, to one that embraced it and made it part of the "Change" for the World.

    You have a President that was making secret deals with the President of the Soviet Union,telling him to wait until he got "re-elected" for more assurances on the deal making.

    Surely suntzu, you are sharp enough to understand that the personality of a leader, any leader, dictates how the whole operation is run. When you have leaders that go from Pro-America to Pro One World, there is the CHANGE that you so love and adore.
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    And the POTUS has given the Administration and Executive Branch free reign to wield their weapons of mass destruction. DHS, Health, EPA.....you name it. They've run amuck with their rules and regulations and directives.

    Alex Jones is not on my reference list, but the Administration lackeys all detest America.

    They would be happy to disarm all of America and turn us into the third-world economic power they so want.

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    The United Nations is a Communist organization. Its original "charter" was crafted by an American Communist. All of the Secretary's General of the U.N. have been Socialists. We should tell the U.N. to go to Hell.


    Not to mention....undersecretary
    Communists appointed to the position of undersecretary-general


    • Arkady Sobolev--USSR (1946-1949)
    • Konstantin Zinchenko—USSR (1949-53)
    • Ilya Tehernychev—Ygoslavia (1954-1957)
    • Anatoly F. Dobrynin—USSR (1958-1960)
    • Georgi Ptrovich Arkadev—USSR (1960-1962)
    • Eugeny Dmiterievich Kiselev—USSR (1962-1963)
    • Vladimir Pavolovich Suslov—USSR (1963-1963)
    • Alexie E. Nesterenko—USSR (1965-1968)
    • Leonid N. Kutakov—USSR (1968-1973)
    • Arkady N. Shevchenko—USSR (1973-1978)
    • Mikhail D. Sytenko—USSR (1978-1981)
    • Viacheslav A. Ustinov—USSR (1981-1986)
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    The document is correct. I am not going to wade into this one....AGAIN. There is a lot of history behind this document and what Kennedy really wanted from it. But for those that think Info Wars is the end all to informative news I would be wasting my breath.

    I would like to add this though. From now on, all of those that believe what Info Wars is saying on this then I would suggest that to be intellectually honest with yourselves that you stop saying "Obama is going to take our guns away". If you agree with the reporter here you need to replace that with "Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter,Reagen, Bush, Clinton, Bush, AND Obama, are coming to take our guns".

    ^^^suntzu is correct^^^^^^^^^^

    on this statement.

    The P'sOTUS listed, as well as conservatively speaking 80% of the statesmen that have served in Washington in the last 35-45 years has been party to this plan.
    The UN is NOT a friend of any American who believes in "Baseball hot dogs apple pie and Chevrolet", or Ford or Dodge for that matter.

    These skunks have sold us and our sovereignty to the NWO GuRu's.
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