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    Senate panel agrees to new legislation on guns

    By Tom Cohen, CNN

    updated 6:20 PM EST, Thu March 7, 2013

    Washington (CNN) -- A bill that would toughen laws on gun trafficking and straw purchases of firearms won approval on Thursday from the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    The measure now goes to the full Senate for consideration. It is the first proposal of its kind to begin moving through the legislative process since the Connecticut school shootings in December that killed 20 first-graders.

    President Barack Obama and top Democrats are seeking a package of tougher gun measures that is opposed by the influential National Rifle Association, many Republicans and some Democrats.

    Polls show public support for expanded gun laws, and advocates have mounted a major campaign to pressure Congress to act in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre and other mass shootings in recent years.

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    I agree on laws to prosecute straw purchases .
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    Oh oh, tougher laws on gun trafficking?
    Mr. Holder may have to arrest himself.
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    arnt they allready illegal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Oh oh, tougher laws on gun trafficking?
    Mr. Holder may have to arrest himself.
    Not with executive privilege from the president.
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    I agree on laws to prosecute straw purchases
    Since its already ILLEGAL to do a "straw purchase" then how in the heck is passing another law that only affects the law abiding going to make it harder for criminals?


    People had better wake up and start thinking about this stuff.
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    Agree or not agree ( dont see why anyone would agree to have their constitutional rights infringed but I gave up on that already, some just do) it wont work on straw man purchases or anything else. Just like no gun reg has ever worked to do what it was supposed to do other than make citizens willing to obey whatever stupidity the gov comes up with deal with more stupidity that only affects the law abiding. Some never ever cant wont and refuse to see that simple fact.
    Fuse is lit, just wonder if anyone in power has the sense to step on it and put it out. I hope so
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Since its already ILLEGAL to do a "straw purchase" then how in the heck is passing another law that only affects the law abiding going to make it harder for criminals?


    People had better wake up and start thinking about this stuff.
    Exactly. This is nothing more than what they had intended Fast and Furious to do for them; only they got caught and had to back off. I'm still angered by the magnitude of what they perpetrated on the American public and apparently nobody gives a hoot about holding them accountable for it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Since its already ILLEGAL to do a "straw purchase" then how in the heck is passing another law that only affects the law abiding going to make it harder for criminals?


    People had better wake up and start thinking about this stuff.
    should have been clearer. I meant I agree on increased prosecution of straw purchases.
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    I'm not a fan of anything being pushed through the cesspool known as Congress by the left, BUT I do believe that there need to be clearly defined laws against straw buys and gun trafficking. As of now, the most severe law against trafficking is Dealing Without a License and for straw buys it is just lying on the 4473. If you look past all the politics involved with the Fast & Furious debacle and look at the actual prosecutions, the guy who was the biggest straw buyer (bought over 1200 guns, mostly AKs, ARs and FiveseveNs) and really was cartel connected is only looking at a maximum of 5 years.

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    Senate panel agrees to new legislation on guns

    Quote Originally Posted by MJB_17 View Post
    I'm not a fan of anything being pushed through the cesspool known as Congress by the left, BUT I do believe that there need to be clearly defined laws against straw buys and gun trafficking. As of now, the most severe law against trafficking is Dealing Without a License and for straw buys it is just lying on the 4473. If you look past all the politics involved with the Fast & Furious debacle and look at the actual prosecutions, the guy who was the biggest straw buyer (bought over 1200 guns, mostly AKs, ARs and FiveseveNs) and really was cartel connected is only looking at a maximum of 5 years.

    Actually, lying on a 4473 is punishable by up to 10 years in prison....

    The problem is lack of prosecution

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    And yet another thought...

    "Straw Purchases" is another anti-gun term coined by anti-gunners. I seriously doubt that straw purchasing is the problem that they make it out to be. They have already admitted that they have prosecuted next to none of the ones that they knew about, so just how exactly is passing another law that wont be prosecuted going to work?

    We are losing ground with each passing day...all in the name of LAW. If we don't wake up and start holding the feet of these anti-gun ,anti-Constitution, socialist loving pigs to the fire, in a few years we wont be able to fart without it being illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulle46 View Post
    I agree on laws to prosecute straw purchases .
    That is already illegal. The original post stated:

    ...toughen laws on gun trafficking and straw purchases...
    So now they have to add more laws to make them enfoce the laws better? Is that what they are doing? Or maybe they are just making what is illegal even MORE illegal. Wow, leave it to Washington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElkSniper View Post
    That is already illegal. The original post stated:



    So now they have to add more laws to make them enfoce the laws better? Is that what they are doing? Or maybe they are just making what is illegal even MORE illegal. Wow, leave it to Washington.
    They are making it so confusing, that if you sell a gun to anyone that might use it improperly, or he sells it to someone that might use it improperly, then all of you get charged thereby removing two or three times the number of people that can own a gun from the approved roles. Its a way of taking rights away from more people at one time with just one case.
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    They want to make it even more illegaler...perhaps they should make it illegal for them to ignore the laws that were already on the books???
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