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With the liberal (yes its liberal) education system we have in this country and the PC teachers and administrators it seems like every day they are banning something new or suspending someone for some "gun related" thing.
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I would hate to be a teacher,these days.Some decisions they make,it will be damned if you do, and damned if you don't.Somethings they do in schools i do wonder about,sometimes.
They have "banned" proper and truthful education.
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They have not only banned common sense but have eliminated all vestiges of it.
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That have not banned learning. Seriously. Stop the rhetoric. I'm in education, but not an insider by a long shot. I made the transition to education/school counselor after 13+ as a pastor. Even though I have to be in union, I don't want to be...I'm a "Right to Work" guy not living in a right to work state or district. Unions are really putting a hurting on education: wasting time and money and resources.
That being said...teachers are some of the hardest working people I know. Many come in early, stay late, and take work home in the evening and on weekends...just like a lot of other professionals you either know or work with. These people are smart, passionate, and committed to the cause of teaching and educating. Sure you and I know the news story or the internet article highlighting the small minority of slackers out there, but doesn't every profession have that? The professionals are also tired, beat up, and sometimes defeated because of the hoops they are constantly jumping through/that are being changed with every new federal and state administration touting "the next big thing in education".
Trust me...there is some jacked up stuff in education...but then again there is some jacked up stuff in every organization. But this is a lot more right than there is wrong especially the frontline level of teachers. So now if you have a problem with "them banning things"...get in there and do something about it. Write your state and federal officials with as much passion as you do 2A stuff. Get in a school and volunteer, mentor, and/or tutor. If you have a kid, write a teacher/administrator/counselor and let them know you support them and ask is there anything you can do to help. If you have a kid...make them do their homework, turn it in, study for tests and quizes, be respectful those in authority, and kind to their classmates. Visit your local school board and tell them it's time to BAN the policy of "last in/first out" i.e last teacher hired is the first one fired if layoff/paycuts need to happen do to budget cuts.
Just a few rants from your conservative/Libertarian forum buddy...I'm off my soap box. Now who's ready to go to the range?!
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Wouldn't it be easier to list what they haven't banned?
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It IS important to keep in mind that the complete and total anti-gun craziness is not found all over the U.S. but, it is extremely prevalent in some select areas.
This cute little girl was called a murderer and searched in front of her class because she had an "L" shaped piece of white paper that may have looked like a gun.
A Philadelphia fifth grader was suspended for having a paper gun at school. The little girl maintains she was chastised by staff and ridiculed by her peers. The child also claims that after the piece of paper that kind of resembled a gun was found, she was searched in front of the entire class. Critics who feel the teacher overreacted wonder if the educator was checking for paper bullets in the little girl’s pockets.
Melody Valentin was moved to tears when discussing the paper gun suspension during interviews. The Philadelphia fifth-grader attends Newlin Fell Elementary School. The child’s mother is still waiting on a response from the school over the matter, the new York daily News notes.
“He [school official] yelled at me and said I shouldn’t have brought the gun to school and I kept telling him it was a paper gun, but he wouldn’t listen.”Melody’s mom, Dianna Kelly, wants to know why a school official stood over her child and reportedly stated he should “call the cops” on her. The Newlin Fell Elementary School staffer also allegedly told the little girl she could be arrested.
Yep, there are some good teachers... Ham strung by policy, cow towed by administration, and beset by parents.
It is "the system" that is FUBAR, not all the participants in it.
It could be worse!
My parents have repeatedly asked why I don't go back into teaching. I have no desire to - I loved my students and my class and had a real passion for it, but I hate the school system and don't want to be a part of it anymore.
I was surprised reading about the cupcakes in another thread with the toy soldiers a few minutes ago. Not surprised over the response to the plastic toys, but because the cupcakes were homemade!! Homemade goodies have been banned in my kids' schools as long as I can remember - store bought only allowed.
I laughed so hard about the kid suspended for that POP TART that was bitten into the form of a gun. The kid received a suspension for terroristic threats? and the school supplied counseling the next day for students that where traumatized..... You can't make stuff like this up, no one would believe you.
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When the socialist/communist got their rears kicked back in the 1950s, they decided to subvert the country from within over time. You are now seeing the fruits of their labors.
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things missing or banned by schools anymore. .....
Classes on the History of the USA
Governemnt & the US Constitution
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1) the art of speaking or writing effectively
2) the study of writing or speaking as a means of communication or persuasion
3) skill in the effective use of speech
4) verbal communication : discourse
Why on earth would we want to stop it, when it's what helps us to understand things?
There are a host of examples we can each likely provide that makes the point of "bans" on learning.
Myself, I can recall it most clearly from two separate "history" courses when I was 13 and 14yrs of age, in which (for example) "exploration" and "emigration" to the Americas (from Europe), "westward expansion" and the various wars (Europe, Americas) were treated as subjects worthy of rote memorization, for learning facts/dates only. Exploring and appreciating the meaning and purpose behind such things wasn't valued, and it was in fact suppressed. Kids asking such questions were shut out of discussions, down-graded, even in some cases ridiculed by the educators for harming such discussions. My queries to the "higher-ups" showed clearly such behavior on the part of the teachers was condoned, disallowing uncomfortable aspects of reality in the discussions.
It's not only in K-12 schools, either. By wielding the whip of tenure, termination and ostracization, faculty in many fields where unpopular views of reality exist are often held to a conformity standard that meets with approval ... instead of promoting an honest exploration of the reality.
In a very real sense, in this way learning how to learn is banned. Didn't stop me; and doesn't stop many. But it stopped many of the other students in those classes from reaching any worthy understanding of such events. And if similar examples by folks over the past 50yrs (and more) along with the practical reality of citizens' take on things is any indication, this "banning" has had the desired conforming effect that was planned.