Great 2A Story from an Old Marine
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An old Marine story to make ...
Post By SigPapa226
Post By ANGLICO
Post By palmgopher
March 29th, 2013 12:08 PM
Great 2A Story from an Old Marine
Marine comment on-line to an article about Biden saying Assault Weapon Ban Just The Beginning.
An old Marine story to make a point.
My Medical Appointment
I visited a physician last week who was quite enthusiastic. It was a
“new” doctor in the practice, a young lady (at MY age, EVERYBODY is
“young”! When I was born, the Dead Sea wasn‘t even sick!)
She was obviously a liberal by her dress and manner. I was thinking of
hitting on her, but I don’t like the phrase she used, “You remind me of
She asked me what was wrong, and I replied, “I have a cut on my leg; and I think it may be getting infected.”
She said, “Before we start, I have to ask you a few questions. Are you allergic to any medications?”
I replied, “No.”
She said, “Do you have any guns in the house?”
I said, “HUH??”
She replied, “Guns. Do you have any guns in the house?”
I asked, “Why?”
She said, “I’ve got to ask this question. It is required under the Affordable Care Act.”
I asked, “What are you going to do with the data?”
She said, “We compile it, amalgamate it, and submit it to the government.”
I said, “Well, I have a Tommy Gun. I let my kid Tommy play with it.”
She said, “What’s a Tommy Gun? I don‘t think that is the kind of gun they are concerned with.”
With THAT, I knew I had a live one. I said, “It’s similar to a B.A.R., but a little heavier and shorter. I have a B.A.R. Also.”
She said, “A B..A.R.?”
I said, “Yes..”
She looked puzzled. Then she brightened up and asked, “Do you have any assault rifles?”
I attempted to look puzzled, and said, “I don’t know. What is an assault rifle?”
She said, “That’s a gun that is used in wars.”
I said, “As a matter of fact, I do. I have a replica of a Revolutionary War musket.”
She began to look a bit exasperated. I pretended not to notice and kept up the appearance of trying to be helpful.
She said, “Do you have anything more modern than that?”
I replied, “Well, yes I do. I have a replica muzzle loader from the
Civil War. Do you know the difference between a musket and a muzzle
She rather peevishly said, “No, I don’t; and I don’t want to. What else do you have?”
I said, “I have an M-1.”
She asked, “What’s that?”
I said, “A rifle.”
She asked, “What kind?”
I replied, “It is called a Garand.”
She rather loudly said, “I don’t care if it is a grand rifle or not.. Is it an assault rifle?”
To which I replied, “I don’t know. I don’t know what an assault rifle
is. You say it’s a rifle used in war, yet you say that my musket and
muzzle loader are not assault rifles.”
She calmed down (a bit) and asked, “Anything else?”
I said, “I have an MG-.30, and an MG-.50. I‘m also part owner of an Apache. But they are not rifles.”
She stated, “Well, then, I’m not interested in them. Anything else.”
I replied, “Well, yes. I also have a 12-gauge and a 20-gauge pump. They are not rifled though.”
She said, “I’m not interested in pumps; I’m interested in guns.”
I replied, “Well, then, I have a Colt, a Luger, a Glock, a bazooka, a
Parabellum, a Kalishnikov, a Henry, an Uzi, a Llama, and a Beretta--but
they are not rifles.”
She then said, “I’ve had enough of this. I think you’re toying with me. Let me see your leg.”
I then said, “Excuse me, but before you look at my leg, I have a few questions to ask of you.”
She replied, “Of course. What are they?”
I said, “I have given you a lot of information about my guns. I am
somewhat concerned about your knowledge and ability to assimilate, make
coherent sense of that information, and report it correctly. Do you know
the difference between a ..22 caliber and a .223 caliber? It’s a rather
She replied, “Actually, I don’t.”
I said, “I see. Let me ask some more relevant questions. “How much money do you make?”
She said, “That’s personal, why do you ask?”
I said, “Well, in pushing the Health Care Act, my president cautioned
the population about doctors that would amputate a leg rather than treat
a cut because they make more money that way. Consequently, I wish to
know if you are financially troubled. What kind of car do you drive?
What are your house payments? How much is your mortgage? How much credit
card debt do you have? Do you have a student loan; if so, how much?”
She said, “I’m not going to answer those questions. You have no right to ask them.”
I then asked, “Do you have training and education in homeopathic
techniques? Do you know the benefits/effects of CoQ10, ginseng, fish
oil, Creatine, BCAA, and other such herbal treatments?” Do you know the
difference between Panax ginseng, American ginseng, and Siberian
She replied, “Well, No!”
I then asked, ”Well, have you studied it at all?”
She replied rather defensively, “NO; it’s all a bunch of hogwash anyway!”
I said, “Oh, then you have read the research on it. What have you read?”
She then said, “I don’t waste my time reading such things. Why are you asking me these questions?”
I said, “Well, if I’m going to turn my body over to you for treatment, I
believe it is reasonable for me to know something about your
motivation, training, experience, and competence. Do you know anything
about the practice of holistic medicine?”
She said, rather angrily “No, I don’t!”
I said, “Oh. O.K. How much experience do you have in practicing medicine?”
She replied, “Well, not very much.”
To which I said, “Well, we all have to start somewhere. What medical
school did you go to; what is its rank in terms of other medical
schools; where did you intern; and where did you do your residency? What
is the rank of the hospital where you did your internship and
She rather peevishly said, “All my credentials are posted in the waiting room.”
To which I said, “Really? The rank of your medical school is posted in
the waiting room? Do you have any experience with leg injuries? If so,
I guess that was too much for her. She rather
crossly said, “I think it would be best if you saw a different doctor.”
...and started to leave the room.
I said, “You know, doctor.
You asked me irrelevant questions about my guns, and I answered them.
Whether or not I own guns is really none of your business and has
absolutely nothing to do with any treatment you might prescribe. On the
other hand, I ask you questions quite relevant to my situation, and you
refuse to answer them. Isn’t that somewhat backwards?”
She said, “But I HAVE to ask those questions. It’s the law.”
To which I replied, “Actually, it is NOT the law. Here is what the law says--taken directly from the Affordable Care Act:”
(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness and health promotion activity implemented
under subsection (a) (1) (D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to—
(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the
property of an individual; or
(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be
used for the collection of any information relating to—
(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;
(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
You may verify this at: http://housedocs.house.gov/ene... and
Wizbang | Archive | January...
“As you can see, you have broken federal law TWICE--once by asking, and once by collecting data.
It is perfectly legal for me to own guns; it is NOT legal for you to ask and/or collect such data.
YOU are breaking the law, and yet YOU are the one that is angry.
Not only that, but you erroneously stated that you must ask such questions, and you did it in a very
authoritative and convincing manner.
You gave me false information, which I then acted upon by answering your questions.
On that basis, how can I be expected to trust your medical judgment?
When I attempted to ascertain your medical competency, you became defensive and hostile.”
“There is really no need for me to see another doctor in this practice. I‘ll go somewhere else, where my
privacy is respected, and I can trust the information I receive.”
Colonel, U. S. Marine Corps, Retired
Source: Biden Audio: Assault Weapons Ban 'Just The Beginning'
Ten Bears: It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men.
March 29th, 2013 12:13 PM
LOL. I just read that somewhere. Might have been on FreePers.
The real point is that Socialized Schools (Progressive Left teachers unions) and Socialized med (O-Care) are all about making every young person afraid of the 'big bad gun'. It's not about hunting, its about god given rights, and we need to fight.
The above story just illistrates the fact that the Hippies of the 60's and 70's are now running our government.
March 29th, 2013 12:20 PM
Thank God my dr is pro 2A enough to tell me he doesnt give a darn. The problem is those that will fold.
Thanks for the the a.m. laugh!
"Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt" ~ Mark Twain
March 29th, 2013 12:20 PM
I bet she felt about as small as she was young......lol
March 29th, 2013 12:47 PM
Funny! I like it.
Assimilate to the sentient, upright, bipedal end of the pool ... or become history.
That's about right. Now, if only they'd cooperate and give up their grandiose schemes of pointless hyper-control.
March 29th, 2013 12:52 PM
Actually it says they may not REQUIRE that the information be asked or collected. It doesn't say it's illegal to ask or collect.
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet."
-General James Mattis, USMC
March 29th, 2013 01:09 PM
Your emphasis is on the wrong words.
Originally Posted by pittypat21
...they MAY NOT require that the information...
But the doctor stated "it's required" by the act. She lied.
The only common sense gun legislation was written about 226 years ago.
I carry always not because I go places trouble is likely, but because trouble has a habit of not staying in its assigned zone.
March 29th, 2013 02:10 PM
I've been warning people of that for 40 years.
Originally Posted by ANGLICO
Retired USAF E-8. Official forum curmudgeon. Lighten up and enjoy life because:
Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid...
Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth
March 29th, 2013 02:18 PM
Funny story, but sadly reflective of where we have arrived as a country.
March 29th, 2013 02:58 PM
I'd almost prefer that they inhale, swallow and all the rest. Just so long as they take their bleedin' fingers off the pencils and keyboards. They'd do far less damage.
Originally Posted by ANGLICO
Where's a good crippy when you need one ...