2A - White men have much to discuss about mass shootings

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    2A - White men have much to discuss about mass shootings

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    By Charlotte Childress and Harriet Childress
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    My Comments: Wow, they are trying to turn the 2A into a race war. Really? Does the MSM cover the Progressive Left led bastions of Chicago, NYC, Baltamore, Detroit, LA, Oakland..........? I did not notice that each have the same last name.....and are apparently over educated people = we are dumb hicks according to them.

    You all can dogpile me on this one if I think there is absolute Irony here.................I'm a man who can take it. Pile on.


    ...............The public would tell these leaders that they need to focus on problems in their own culture and communities.

    ...............But when the criminals and leaders are white men, race and gender become the elephant in the room.

    ...............Unlike other groups, white men are not used to being singled out. So we expect that many of them will protest it is unfair if we talk about them. But our nation must correctly define their contribution to our problem of gun violence if it is to be solved.

    When white men try to divert attention from gun control by talking about mental health issues, many people buy into the idea that the United States has a national mental health problem, or flawed systems with which to address those problems, and they think that is what produces mass shootings.

    Just wow! I know a bunch of people on this Forum were, um, oh, it aint that bad........and they are not really trying to take our guns.......... where do you stand now (your opinion)?

    White men have much to discuss about mass shootings - The Washington Post
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    If Americans ask the right questions on gun issues, we will get the right answers. These answers will encourage white men to examine their role in their own culture and to help other white men and boys become healthier and less violent.
    It would be just as legitimate to write:

    If Americans ask the right questions on gun issues, we will get the right answers. These answers will encourage black men to examine their role in their own culture and to help other black men and boys become healthier and less violent.
    No group has a monopoly on violence.
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    The MSM will write anything to divert attention from the real problems facing our country. The current administration has brought racism to the foreground. No group has a monopoly on racism.

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    The anti-gun liberal politicians and the main stream media have no shame, no morals, and no clue. They're pulling every card imaginable. As has been said, violence plagues all people and all people have a right to be able to defend themselves and their families from violence. Mental health services are a problem in this country for everyone. The issues, and solutions, cannot be singled out by race. It's a people problem.
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    ...not to mention that gun restriction laws have their historic root in racism. Most of them evolved from attempting to keep minorities from possessing guns. And, to some extent, they still do.

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    The mere fact that this article was written and published should be a lesson in just how far and how quickly the liberals have gone on the 2nd highest tenet of their belief structures. If I were a Democrat in a conservative state, I'd be pretty nervous because this is the beginning of a purity purge on that side of the aisle.

    To provide more context, I live in the suburban area of one of the Great Lakes major cities that is not Chicago, I think it's been well documented what is going on in Chicago's south & west sides. But in my city, whose mayor is part of the Mayor Against Any Guns group, we do not go more than 2 or 3 days without having a story in the morning of an overnight shooting in our central city. These shootings are almost exclusively black on black or Latino on Latino crime. After some of these instances, they may be a lot of empty talk about doing something about the violence in the central city and the go to candle light vigil. Sadly, our city leaders are lazy and/or only interested in lining their own pockets. Our mayor clearly fits under lazy category. He'll never be voted out because the city never votes out an incumbent mayor. The city council men are either lazy, wanting a high pay, low or no work job, or scheming to line their own pockets. I think there is one that actually cares, but not enough to challenge the mayor in an election. It's clearly a cultural issue here as the public school system is dead last in the state, education is not valued by many in the central city.

    Now here we have two east coast elitists saying that we have a white only cultural problem and a notable propaganda sheet publishes it, knowing they would be inviting opponents to point out the continuing cultural problems in central city communities, most of which are predominately black like my city in the paragraph above. You only intentionly step on that rake (a la Sideshow Bob) and take the handle in the face, if you are so blinded by your doctrine.

    To be fair, we do need to talk about our culture overall. If we want to have a chance at stopping violence, we need to understand why the murderers decided to do what they did, because everyone of them you can think of (Columbine, VT, Oak Creek, Aurora, Newtown, Brookfield, Tuscon), knew the difference between right and wrong, they did not care. What led them to make the rationalization?

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    I bet there are a lot of white males involved in fatal auto accidents as well. It has to be a cultural problem and blame should be assigned where it belongs. Or not!!! If this type of psycho babble non logic was used to address world hunger, we would be blaming those who are going hungry. The two who wrote this nonsense need to get outdoors for some fresh air once in a while.

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    ...the name of their game is divide and conquer and distract...are we going to let them win at it???
    ...we need to stay united behind our cause and let petty differences assume their place at the end of the line...if we lose the 2A fight, we've lost it all...

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    Could not read that drivel in the post, can't read it now.
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    It's difficult to comprehend the liberal mind. Words that come to mind are confused, misinformed, demented, indoctrinated, to name a few. I could keep going, but I'll stop there.

    The article failed to mention all of the mass gang shootings in Chicago, that are primarily associated with African/Americans.

    The authors intent is to blame the scary white men.

    Shame on Charlotte Childress and Harriet Childress.
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    How many single, or small groups of blacks/hispanics (for a "non-white" example), are killed by other blacks/hispanics, versus the "mass shootings" perpetrated by white guys? (I don't know the answer to that question, but I sure can make a semi-educated guess). The argument makes no sense at all, and can't be supported by actual facts. The women that wrote the article are certainly entitled to their opinion - but that's all it is - a misinformed, misguided, ridiculous opinion. Just...wow.

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    These guys have been hanging out with Joseph Mitchell too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeepThing View Post
    How many single, or small groups of blacks/hispanics (for a "non-white" example), are killed by other blacks/hispanics, versus the "mass shootings" perpetrated by white guys? (I don't know the answer to that question, but I sure can make a semi-educated guess). The argument makes no sense at all, and can't be supported by actual facts. The women that wrote the article are certainly entitled to their opinion - but that's all it is - a misinformed, misguided, ridiculous opinion. Just...wow.
    Just check the FBI crime statistics. Shootings/murders committed based on race is shockingly disproportional.
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    White men, red faces, black hearts. IMO, there's far more of the other elements that gets us all in trouble, than mere pigmentation differences.

    Far better to rely upon the facts and strength of the message, in the long run. In the short run, though, it's almost as though those who fling such things about are deliberately inflaming the situation. One of the dandy things about "desktop publishing" is that these mental giants can inflame things way the heck beyond their own neighborhoods so easily, these days.
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