Kelly: Gun checks need mental health component

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    Kelly: Gun checks need mental health component

    News from The Associated Press

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Gun control activist Mark Kelly says a proposed national gun background bill under discussion in the Senate should include better access to mental health records that could prevent psychologically disturbed people from obtaining guns.
    He focuses on Jared Loughner having passed a background check "despite evidence of his agitated mental state."
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    Other than the likelihood of bureaucratic manipulation, abuse, prevarication, delay and the like, I have no problem with it. <WRONG>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    Other than the likelihood of bureaucratic manipulation, abuse, prevarication, delay and the like, I have no problem with it. <WRONG>
    Agreed
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    So he agrees with the NRA.
    Nice.

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    I know, let's get the ACLU involved to tell us which part of the HIPAA privacy rules should be violated in order to get people like Loughner on a government "no gun" list.
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    Sounds good to the sheeple, but in reality requiring mental health checks as part of a UBC system would result in the following:

    "This guy had grievance counseling? Denied!".

    "This lady saw a psychiatrist as part of post-rape recovery? Denied!"

    "This retiree was once treated for depression as a teenager? Denied!"

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    It could get much worse, Alex_C:

    "He looked at me funny";

    "He pointed his finger at me";

    "He made a birthday cake with toy soldiers on the top";

    The Damnorats will never be satisified. Just say "enough is enough", "no".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock and Glock View Post
    It could get much worse, Alex_C:

    "He looked at me funny";

    "He pointed his finger at me";

    "He made a birthday cake with toy soldiers on the top";

    The Damnorats will never be satisified. Just say "enough is enough", "no".

    "What did you not understand about the word "No"?"
    But... But... It's common sense! And 80% of NRA members support it! And I only lie on days that end in Y.


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    Been to court ordered marriage counseling during a divorce?=Denied.
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    Should'nt he have been arrested for making a straw purchase when he tried to buy an AR 15 from a gun dealer (who canceled the purchase) and admitted he was giving it to another organization?.
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    This list of "denied" would be endless.... they would twist anything in / on a medical record as reason to deny
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    C'mon folks, who can possibly argue against creating more bureaucracy? I can't think of a single instance where more government didn't make things better; they spend more money in horrifically inefficient ways, they make people jump through hoops for fun and they always have the most outstanding people pushing the paper. Who wouldn't want some more of that?

    Oh, and at what point did Mark Kelly become an expert on mental illness?
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    I think a lot of Government officals need a mental health check. ASAP. IF they fail they lose their position.
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    He's just ticked cause his wife probably wouldn't pass the background check and be able to carry his AR-15. Actually, he's just doing some political grandstanding trying to get everyone's attention focused on something and make it hard as heck for normal folks to get a gun. If they really want to make a difference, hire more cops to patrol the back alleys where the illegal guns are coming from and arrest the bad guys selling them out of their trunks in the cities...could start with Chicago, the Prez's hometown which has the WORST gun crimes being committed right now. News don't want to focus on real problems, only the ones they can invent solutions for.

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