Ohio HB 495 is now in effect.

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    Ohio HB 495 is now in effect.

    I didn't see anything on it last week when it went into effect, here is the BFA's write up: HB495: Definition of "unloaded" gun is now fixed for all Ohioans; "No Guns" signs come down in Statehouse parking garage

    The most important change is to the definition of loaded guns in vehicles. While I don't really like the new two tiered approach, it makes more sense than the old definition.

    It also removed the need to seek new training for a second renewal, which is good, because exactly what that training was to be was never defined, and people started needing it this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye .45 View Post
    I didn't see anything on it last week when it went into effect, here is the BFA's write up: HB495: Definition of "unloaded" gun is now fixed for all Ohioans; "No Guns" signs come down in Statehouse parking garage

    The most important change is to the definition of loaded guns in vehicles. While I don't really like the new two tiered approach, it makes more sense than the old definition.

    It also removed the need to seek new training for a second renewal, which is good, because exactly what that training was to be was never defined, and people started needing it this year.
    Thankfully, I got mine renewed last year, with little fuss in Delaware, but when I was attemptign to get it done not a single soul could clarify the whole process of renewal.

    Very glad all that passed through.

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    First renewal requires, what?

    Second renewal requires a fee only, no additional training...
    All that said....
    It could be worse.
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    No more having to unload my rifle mags just to transport them to the range!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakchas View Post
    First renewal requires, what?

    Second renewal requires a fee only, no additional training...
    First renewal just requires filling out the app and a fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTreadOnI View Post
    No more having to unload my rifle mags just to transport them to the range!
    Just make sure they are transported in the proscribed manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye .45 View Post
    Just make sure they are transported in the proscribed manner.
    "...so long as any magazine for a non-handgun is not inserted into the non-handgun. (i.e. a loaded rifle magazine may be anywhere in the vehicle as long as it isn’t inserted into the rifle.)"

    Yes sir
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    Such a convoluted definition of unloaded. How about simply, "No rounds or loaded magazines in the firearm."
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Such a convoluted definition of unloaded. How about simply, "No rounds or loaded magazines in the firearm."
    Its better than the old one, which was no loaded magazines or speed loaders in the vehicle while a gun they fit was in the vehicle, unless you had a CHL.
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    I prefer Florida's allowing anyone to conceal a "securely encased" loaded gun in a vehicle--with or without a permit/license. Securely encased is a fairly wide-open definition.
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    Thanks for posting Buckeye!
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    Our local newspaper just had an article about it today, written by a sports writer. At least they did put it in the paper! While still not perfect, Ohio has better firearms laws than a lot of states and they have gotten better in the past couple of years with this one and the change last year that allows carrying in establishments that serve alcohol as long as you are not drinking.
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