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    I am glad I am am not as paranoid about this stuff as some of you.

    Maybe we should save a copy of all the posts here and when the gloom and doom doesn't happen then everyone can reread thier posts in a couple of years.
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    Good thread, but it's in the wrong section of the Forums.

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    There were some dems out there that avoided the subject. Some of them actually embraced 2A rights like Heath Shuler (NC) who claims to be a strong advocate of gun rights. But I'm afraid when it gets down to it, a lot of them are going to vote the party line at the worst, or keep their mouth shut and not buck the system at the least.

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    We re-elected our Republican Governor here in SC.

    However... I have made a large move to prepare. Purchased three handguns in the last three weeks. And after 50 years of life without, I am taking my CWP class this coming Saturday. No time to waste, just in case.

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    why so much gloom & doom?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueLion View Post
    I really don't see them disarming us ccw or other wise). However, I do think that we all get caught up in the moment. I would not be worried one bit. We have a large voice in congress and believe it or not some demoncrats carry. I think by nature we love drama and we just love to have something to talk about and the demoncrats taking our guns and placing us under martial law is one of them. I voted yes, but do I worry, no, because ultimately things will be what they will be. Just do your part and hope for the rest. My 2cents.
    +1.

    Besides, the Dem party has other pressing & difficult objectives to undertake first. And those tasks which I forsee them setting their sights on will occupy their efforts & willpower for some time to come without leaving much else for a long, protracted fight such as one against 2A.

    Let's not forget that the country has become more CCW accessible since the AWB than ever before and blood has not run in the streets as the Brady bunch predicted. This time around, if the D's do attempt another run-about the 2A, the lies and fears on which the AWB and its ilk were built will be harder to sell to the populace.

    I know this for sure: I am much wiser to issues of gun ownership in 2006 than I was in 1994. And judging by the people with which I undertook my CCW training and the new shooters like myself that I see at the range, I'd have to conclude that the same is true for many others, too.

    Let it suffice to say that in my neck of the woods, some of the same people that you'd typically imagine to be in the Brady ranks now pack heat. These people are the ones on whose back the AWB was passed the first time.
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    I see this election as good for an additional 1million NRA members, a sales boom in guns, and my constant calls to congress/senate vocalizing my opposition to future pending legislation! If the Repubs weren't wimps, they would have won. Instead we had RepubliCrats - halfbreeds that didn't stand for anything.

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    Supreme Court

    What concerns me most is the composition of the Supreme Court. The Senate can exert control over Supreme Court nominees that Bush might put forward over the next 2 years. If Bush gets another nomination or two during the remainder of his term, he may not get a judicial conservative approved by the Senate, like the recent approval of Judge Alito. The Senate may force him to name a moderate to gain approval.

    Someday there will be a significant Second Amendment case before the Supreme Court, and I'd like the outcome to be favorable for us.

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    I was pretty distraught last night watching the results. Today, I have realized that there really isn't a new fight, just a continuation of one. I don't think I could have honestly believed that one party would control all aspects of government forever. In fact, I don't think it should be that way at all.

    This day after election day is really no different than any other year in the respect that there are those that will always want to limit the individual rights of the others. There have been people calling for the disarming of individuals since well before the country even got a start, and it will probably be the case for years to come.

    Back to basics I say. I am going to upgrade my NRA membership from Annual to Life, join the GOA, and write even more letters now to those that represent me in government. South Dakota's lone seat in the house was held convincingly by the Democratic candidate and we have traded letters over the last year or so. This will be no different.

    I am not a registered anything as far as party goes, but I am a Freedom junkie, liberty addict. I will strive to conduct myself in a reasonable manner while discussing my position with those that currently disagree with how I see it.

    Politics can be painful. When it comes down to it I would take this system over any other though.


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    I think that everyone needs to relax a little and not worry so much.

    Just as activist Republicans have not been able to get a lot of social issues that they shouldn't be screwing with passed, so the Democrats will not change the country either.

    Checks and balances tend to work and there are a lot more moderate, reasonable people out there than there are activists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceRider View Post
    Checks and balances tend to work and there are a lot more moderate, reasonable people out there than there are activists.
    I have to disagree. There are a lot of people who cannot make up their mind unless Hollywood, the main networks and the liberal papers tells them what to think. Those sitting in the middle and undecided until election day have not put any substantial thought into the issues or they would have already picked a side. IF someone is not bright enough to decide where they stand I fail to see why I should have confidence in them.

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    If you going to talk about politics which is not encouraged here and i will leave this run because of the slight 2a issue at least put them in the right place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musketeer View Post
    I have to disagree. There are a lot of people who cannot make up their mind unless Hollywood, the main networks and the liberal papers tells them what to think. Those sitting in the middle and undecided until election day have not put any substantial thought into the issues or they would have already picked a side. IF someone is not bright enough to decide where they stand I fail to see why I should have confidence in them.
    Well then you better not vote any more then, because there aren't any politicians in Washington that can make up their minds as to what they believe or are going to fight for. They will tell you before election day but the day after, or during their term you will see what they really stand for, nothing other than putting themselves first.. Oh, and by the way the same holds true for those that are slaves to Fox news, pr Rush Limbaugh or whomever for telling them how to think on the other side of the issues.
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    Pelosi has been a far left congresswoman from San Francisco (where else?) since 1987. She may have a lot of juice with her fellow ultra-liberal democrats, however she clearly doesn't speak for most Americans.

    My view is that those checks and balances people referred to above will prevent her from succeeding in her inevitable and ongoing assault on the Second Amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musketeer View Post
    I have to disagree. There are a lot of people who cannot make up their mind unless Hollywood, the main networks and the liberal papers tells them what to think. Those sitting in the middle and undecided until election day have not put any substantial thought into the issues or they would have already picked a side. IF someone is not bright enough to decide where they stand I fail to see why I should have confidence in them.

    Hollywood, Bill O'Reilly, what's the difference? Trust in the quiet people who don't rant and rave all day long.

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    Like some of the other posters have said, not all of the Democrats elected to the Senate or House are anti-gun. I believe that this is a turn from the Democrats away from their past to get elected. After NOLA, many people saw what happens when the government is left to its own devices and law & order holes up in its police stations. People want to keep their firearms and I think the Dems recognize that - the fact that the Republicans would use that as ammunition against them. The Democrats will want to keep their offices, so it is likely that they will remain stagnant with were gun laws currently are.

    However, there is the possibility that they Dems will throw that into the wind and try to ban as much as possible.

    What GREATLY concerns me is Nancy Pelosi. She will be the speaker of the house, and ultimately, have control of what bills make it to the floor and which ones don't. I'd hate to think how many Pro2A items are cut because of what she thinks. I mean, geez, look what they tried in San Francisco last year (or was it the year before?)....
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