April 3rd, 2013 09:54 AM
New poll out
Well, here's the definitive word on what people believe around the country concerning firearms. Of course, I state that with much sarcasm.
Morning Joe poll: 60 percent of Americans want stricter gun laws - First Read
Even if this could be considered a legitimate poll, why are many of the legislator's bills being severely questioned and some partially scrapped ?
April 3rd, 2013 10:15 AM
I believe the poll is probably accurate. As to why legislators are scrapping some aspects of proposed gun control legislation, maybe it is because the legislator's views don't necessarily reflect the majority opinion.
April 3rd, 2013 10:19 AM
Every now and then I watch CNN news (know thine enemy).
The night before last, the anchor nonchalantly stated that "90% of Americans want stricter gun control laws, but Congress is blocking it."
There is no accountability anymore. We already know that the gun-grabbers are a pack of (mostly) dim-witted, (universal) liars. Their quoted stats mean nothing.
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April 3rd, 2013 10:29 AM
Apparently, 60 percent of Americans are uneducated and don't know what the gun laws are.
It could be worse!
April 3rd, 2013 10:37 AM
I wonder where this poll was done and who did it? Anyone on this forum been polled about this issue?
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April 3rd, 2013 10:38 AM
My shooting buddy back east gets another 15 minutes of fame (the one carrying the flag), at the NSSF counter-protest last week in Newtown.
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April 3rd, 2013 11:00 AM
Polls can be worded and constructed to get the result you want. Pick your group to question. Cities are more liberal than rural. Colleges are more liberal than cities. Pick the group to question based on what you want to hear.
Load the questions to force the answer you want, ie "Would you rather have gun control or be shot by a crazed gun totting idiot with a killer army machine gun?" vs
"Do you believe a congress that fears guns has the right to overthrow the Constitution to eliminate a right of the people?" Same question, phrased a little differently.
Define the terms your own way (The CNN 90% statement). "Do you want psychopaths to have guns or not" becomes 90% want gun control. Gun control ranges from background checks with no fee to confiscation The devil is in the details. The generic 90% statement sounds good but is meaningless until "gun control" is defined.
April 3rd, 2013 11:06 AM
Anything by NBC isn't worth its weight in bovine excrement.
Last edited by TX expat; April 3rd, 2013 at 12:20 PM.
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April 3rd, 2013 11:11 AM
And don't forget 74% of NRA members support the Universal Gun Grab - Oops! I meant the Universal Background Check.
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April 3rd, 2013 11:44 AM
Considering that is an NBC Poll (NBC meaning the "Never Backed a Conservative") it stands to reason they would come up with these results. Looking down the written article they come out with this.....
Forty-two percent of respondents prefer a mixture of spending cuts (including to entitlement programs) and revenue increases; 35 percent pick increasing mostly revenue; and just 17 percent choose mostly cutting government spending (including to programs like Medicare and Medicaid).
And.... But the president’s approach to deficit reduction – calling for a combination of spending cuts and increased tax revenues – is more popular than the Republicans’ cuts-only approach.
I think I am going to have to call BS on this data. Of course I could conduct a study and make the figures show that if you are anywhere within a 1/2 mile of a door knob you are at risk of being murdered. I guess we need to ban door knobs as well.......
So, are we to believe that American's actually want to pay more taxes and to heck with the deficit? Funny, that sounds very familiar....oh yeah, that's what the same folks who are trying to gut the 2nd Amendment want to do.
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April 3rd, 2013 02:09 PM
You can follow the link to the actual poll, which included other topics as well. Here are the gun related questions, my comments will follow.
Do you think it is more important to:
Protect gun rights 44
Control gun violence 53
Do you think the laws covering the sale of firearms should be more strict, less strict, or kept as they are now?
More strict 60
Less strict 5
Kept as they are now 33
Do you support or oppose legislation that would ban the sale of assault weapons?
Protect gun rights vs stop gun violence - those are two unrelated items, bad question.
Laws covering sales of guns - how many of the non-gun buying public have the slightest clue what's involved?
AWB - again, most respondents don't know what it is they are being asked about, much less the near negligible impact "assault weapons" have on crime or "gun violence"
The only common sense gun legislation was written about 224 years ago.
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April 3rd, 2013 02:12 PM
In a telemarketer voice: Hello resident in NYC. Do you want more gun control laws? Why yes we do......National poll update, 90% of americans favor more gun control.....
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April 3rd, 2013 02:18 PM
come on NBC???? not credible just look at the demographics
Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything.
April 3rd, 2013 02:31 PM
Probably on their website, and only advertised to their viewing audience and website traffic, therefore the results are heavily skewed due to a biased sample base.
Originally Posted by latentcarry
70% of people believe that 98% of statistics are flawed, and more than 65% of those are made up...
April 3rd, 2013 02:36 PM
Of course. It's an NBC poll, i.e. National Bastion of Communism. Only 60%? I'm surprised it's not being reported as 95%.
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