It will be a long 4 years for Wisconsin

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    It will be a long 4 years for Wisconsin

    Doyle got re-elected. The sadder news (stolen from Dolomite on GT.com).

    State Senate
    Dems who voted for the PPA override last year:
    Re-elected – Decker, Plale
    Still in (but running next election) – Lassa, Wirch, Breske

    Last night’s State Senate losses potentially bad for the future of the WI PPA:

    Sen Dist 5 - Reynolds out – Sullivan(D) in. NRAPVF Grade: D
    Sen Dist 15 – Addie out – Robson(D) in. NRAPVF Grade: F
    Sen Dist 21 (open seat) – McReynolds (R) loses – Lehman (D) in. NRAPVF Grade: F
    (and this next one really breaks my heart)
    Sen Dist 23 – Zien out. PPA co-author and frontman in this fight for over 10 yearsKreitlow (D) in. NRAPVF Grade: F
    Sen Dist 31 – Brown out. Vinehout (D) in. NRAPVF Grade: ?

    We started with 19 (R) and 14 (D). Now we’re looking at 15(R) and 18(D) in the state senate. Gwenny Moore’s massive and gross void has again been shoveled full of even more anti-gun villainy.

    Want to feel pushed to the edge of tears even more? Think of this possibility: President of the Wisconsin State Senate, Fred Risser (again).

    State Assembly-wise
    Gronemus, Vruwink, Schneider, and Hubler were all brave enough to vote for the override last year.

    They all got re-elected.

    And so ends the good news:

    Asmbly dist 5 – Nelson retained. NRAPVF Grade: D
    Asmbly dist 13 – Cullen retained. NRAPVF Grade: D-
    Asmbly dist 17 – Toles retained. NRAPVF Grade: F
    Asmbly dist 23 – Ott (R) elected. NRAPVF Grade: C
    Asmbly dist 25 – Tittl (R) out. Ziegelbauer in. NRAPVF Grade: C
    Asmbly dist 26 - scum-bag Van Akkeren retains. NRAPVF Grade: F
    Asmbly dist 28 – Pettis (R) out. Hraychuck in. NRAPVF Grade: D
    Asmbly dist 37 – Casper (R) out. Jorgensen in. NRAPVF Grade: ?
    Asmbly dist 48 – Parisi retained. NRAPVF Grade: F
    Asmbly dist 49 – Loeffelholz (R) out. Garthwaite in. NRAPVF Grade: ?
    Asmbly dist 51 – Freese (R) out. Hilgenberg in. NRAPVF Grade: ?
    Asmbly dist 54 – Open. Hintz (D) beat Leschke (R). Both have NRAPVF Grade of: ?
    Asmbly dist 62 – Open. Cory (D) beat Wanggaard (R). Both have NRAPVF Grade of: ?
    Asmbly dist 71 – Molepske(D) retains. NRAPVF Grade of: D
    Asmbly dist 74 – The original traitor, Sherman (D) retains. NRAPVF Grade of: a big fat F
    Asmbly dist 75 – Hubler retains. NRAPVF Grade of: D+ (?)
    Asmbly dist 85 – Seidel (D) retains. NRAPVF Grade of: D-
    Asmbly dist 88 – Soletski (D) beats Krawczyk (Ri). NRAPVF Grade of: ?
    Asmbly dist 93 – Smith (D) beats Kreibich (R). NRAPVF Grade of: ?

    They started this with Republican seats at 59 and Democrats at 39. Now I think they’re at 53-46 (?).
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    Living in NY I have a hard time feeling bad for WI.

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    My sympathy ; I left Wis years ago; however, visit once or twice a year.

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    Not good news at all.

    I'd have thought Doyle's re-election was almost the worst news, tho the rest is depressing enough.
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    Living in Alabama I feel sorry for the rest of ya.

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    I also moved from WI in Feb 05.

    Might be heading back after school, but I will be covered under LEOSA. They just don't get it. I can see the Rs in the WI congress to be as much of a thorn in the Ds side as possible.
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    If you going to talk about politics which is not encouraged here and i will leave this run because of the slight 2a issue at least put them in the right place

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    The Doyle re-election in WI really sinks CCW reform, for his veto was the killer the last two times.

    I agree that it looks bleaker now, without hope of getting to the point of a veto override effort.

    It was all about the war, and in many cases the anti-war tide "threw the baby out with the bathwater", for here I lost a good US Rep to a nobody who will do nothing!

    As I type this, the crawl on my monitor announced that Rumsfeld is stepping down. The elephant is down, but not out...heeding the anti-war cry and re-grouping for '08.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud White View Post
    If you going to talk about politics which is not encouraged here and i will leave this run because of the slight 2a issue at least put them in the right place
    This directly relates to the PPA in WI.


    This is really a hit to getting concealed carry passed in WI. With the anti-gun governor being re-elected and the gaps in the house and senate being closer to 50/50, I doubt the PPA will be introduced in the next few years. I doubt we can get a veto override. Although more LE agencies are seeing the light as a lot of them switched from Doyle's camp to support Green because of the PPA. This would help the fight. I doubt even more that we will have a veto proof majority. That is very laughable.

    The only thing we can count on is Doyle vetoing the bill if it ever gets out of the commitee and onto the floor for voting, and makes it past that. It is primarily Milwaukee and Madison that is stopping concealed carry in WI. If we could find a way to wheel and deal with them in order to pass it.

    I was all hoping for a combo bill that would include protections from duty to retreat, liability if lawful SD use of force, etc that I am sure Green would have signed in a heartbeat. He would have been waiting outside with a pen in hand, IMO.

    Looks like concealed carry is dead in WI.
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    Thats all fine and dandy but ya still put it in the wrong forum and also if ya look at all the other politics thread i put same message in when i moved them

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