Anyone else afraid to contact Progressive Government Reps ?
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April 5th, 2013 02:39 AM
Anyone else afraid to contact Progressive Government Reps ?
I know as Americans under the Constitution we have the right to express grievances towards the Government but I have never been more afraid of my government before in my life.They collect lists and destroy people.They do not think with reason or care about the Constitution which they swore to uphold.We are losing our rights at such a rapid pace and it seems at times with little or no voice of opposition.
I write to those Conservative representatives which appear to want to uphold the Constitution but I am unsure how effective it is.
I have such strong feelings about what is going on and even here in this forum i feel hesitant, because you just don't know if you say something that is deemed by someone as wrong, you may get a 5am wake up call by some government swat team.
Anyhow just curious how others are feeling out there. Hoping to hear from some Patriots with an encouraging word...
April 5th, 2013 03:04 AM
Write your reps. You dont have to rant at them. They arent going to read it anyway likely but have bean counters on staff to check and see how many of their voters are going which way on an issue. Urge to vote for or against said whatever it is and leave it at that.
If your reps are lib antis they know they are going to get written by thousands opposing what they are pushing anyway they just dont care. As long as you dont threaten one or come off as some threat to them personally youll be just someone else that is urging a vote one way or the other.
Just stay respectful voice what you feel they should support or oppose and I doubt youll have a drone targeting your house
Then again if you hear something overhead
" It is sad governments are chief'ed by the double tongues." quote Ten Bears Movie Outlaw Josie Wales
April 5th, 2013 03:10 AM
If one has a issue/grievance that concerns the government, proposed bills, the Constitution they have a right under the 1st amendment to address them to the government.
I would not worry myself that I would be "tagged" as long as you are cordial, do not threaten, use vulgar language when contacting them.
As for representatives that do not possibly seem to agree with your views it is still a good idea to contact them anyway so that they see an opposing view from their constituents. If people do not contact them they get the idea they are right since they receive nothing from the "other" side.
Granted many people simply will not contact an "unfriendly" representative. Personally I believe that is the wrong attitude. Example: Even if I lived in California I would still contact Senator Feinstein and Boxer to urge them to vote no on the upcoming so called "gun control" bills/amendments...........
"One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation."
--Thomas B. Reed, American Attorney
Second Amendment -- Established December 15, 1791
and slowly eroded ever since What happened to "..... shall not be infringed."
April 5th, 2013 03:48 AM
I'm not one bit afraid to contact them and let them know where I stand. Of course, I'm one of those dreaded progressives, so maybe they'll let me ride along in the black helicopters!
In all seriousness, there are millions of pro gun liberals like me in the US. There's a lot of tinfoil-hat nonsense on both sides of the aisle, and I really wish it would stop. The gun control thing reminds me a bit of the situation in the Colonies before the revolution. The founders reckoned that the population was divided roughly into thirds: 1/3 wanted revolution, 1/3 were loyal to the Crown and the other 1/3 just wanted to live their lives, taking a "wait and see" attitude towards the troubles. Likewise there are a few "true believers" like DiFi but there are a lot more that, while not gun friendly, are just watching to see which way the wind blows.
That's where the letters and calls come in. The true believers are often in extremely safe gerrymandered districts without much chance of losing their seat. This applies to both parties. The guys and gals that carry water for the cause often don't care what the people think because they don't have to. But most of them care more about getting re-elected than in doing what's right. Again, this applies to both parties. Just like a cop's main job is to get home at the end of the day, a career politician wants to ride the gravy train as long as they can.
Be courteous, be respectful, even when you disagree. But be persistent. Let them know you will vote on the issue and then follow through.
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
“You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions.” - Naguib Mahfouz
April 5th, 2013 04:53 AM
I contact Sherrod Brown all the time. I know it will do no good, but I do it anyway. It is my right and I exercise it. If he decides to kill me over that, God will take care of that.
"I've noticed that everyone that is pro-abortion has already been born." - Ronald Reagan
"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny." Thomas Jefferson
You are only paranoid until you are right - then you are a visionary.
April 5th, 2013 07:45 AM
I've been writing all of them, pro and anti. If they don't have anything better to do than come after a redneck sitting in his boxer shorts in FL sending "I'm not going to vote for you because you're a liberal gun grabber, and I'm telling all my buddies" e-mails, then this country is too far gone to save. Until they repeal the 1st Amendment, the stupid people doing stupid things in our govt are going to keep getting correspondence from me. Let the cards fall where they may.
Know Guns, Know Safety, Know Peace.
No Guns, No Safety, No Peace.
April 5th, 2013 07:55 AM
Either too many politicians have that elitist air about them, or they are really socialists advancing an agenda. I have seen reports of people at town hall meetings with their reps getting either thrown out of the meeting, or arrested ... because that rep did not want to deal with the complaints in front of them. The Libs claim they want Government that is not bought and sold on Washington D.C.'s "K" Street. They claim they have had the most transparent Government. Of course only the SHEEPLE believe that.
April 5th, 2013 07:59 AM
I write to them and get the form letter in return. Then they ignore my position and vote their own agenda...no problem.
April 5th, 2013 08:14 AM
I have never been afraid to contact any of my "Representatives" however, the Liberal, gun-hating, jumpin-on-the-big-O-bandwagon-for-the-children ones simply ignore my plea for sanity when it comes to firearms legislation and second ammendment rights.
They are convinced of their stance and no plea, or threat of getting voted out will sway them. It is an exercise in futility to challenge them or change their minds. Apparently it is a mental disorder that has no cure.
Out of four WV Legislators, I contacted two of them. Sen. Rockefeller (D-WV) is not seeking a re-election and he is usless anyhow, he will vote for gun restriction and that's that.
Sen. Manchin (D-WV) lied to the voters saying he would not follow any of the policies of our President, but he has made an about face. He is firmly entrenched in gun restriction and will not budge.
Representative Rahall (D-WV) is committed to vote against or stop any new legislation for gun control. He says looking into the mental health issue will be better than gun restriction. He told me so in a reply letter.
Rep. Shelly Capito (R-WV) has been and has publicly proclaimed she is against any and all gun control legislation. I did not have to contact her.
At least two out of four is good.
"A Smith & Wesson always beats 4 aces!"
The Man Prayer. "Im a man, I can change, if I have to.....I guess!" ~ Red Green
April 5th, 2013 08:33 AM
We're already on a list.
Originally Posted by aworldexport
you can thank the Patriot Act for that.
Don't believe what you hear and only half of what you see!
April 5th, 2013 08:53 AM
It doesn't bother me at all because as other's have said, the Rep. doesn't read it anyway.
I'm sure the staff scans the letter to see if it's in the "pro" or "con" category and makes little hash marks on a paper to keep track. Then the pre-written, standard letter gets mailed out, having almost nothing to do with what you actually wrote about.
The only letters that get any attention are the ones that have some sort of threat in them. Those go to the FBI where the FBI agents read them, laugh and throw them in the circular file. (I made that part up )
April 5th, 2013 09:18 AM
If you're concerned about something you might include in the letter, post the wording here for people to comment on. There are some very smart eloquent posters here.
April 5th, 2013 09:30 AM
Well, a couple hundred million people vehemently and assertively expressing their opinions in every way, shape and form, cannot be ignored. The only way it can be ignored is to do exactly that: have no voice of opposition. We, as a People, have tried that the past ~40yrs or so on firearms, and it hasn't gotten us anywhere. We've largely become passive workers in a worker-bee facility called the U.S.A., but we've forgotten our roots, failed to get (and remain) heavily involved in our own governance, failed to do much else in our communities (with respect to governance, admin, laws) other than to become apathetic in the extreme.
Originally Posted by aworldexport
IMO, by far the best thing every person can do is to get specifically, invasively, heavily involved to the degree we each can do so. Starting with contacting our elected folk in our own towns, counties, states and DC. Becoming involved with a few issues we hold dear (ie, saving the library, or creating alternatives for kids after school, or getting involved in tutoring/mentoring, or helping in our local governments. YES, our voices get heard. But only if we make them heard. 300M people refusing to go quietly into the night cannot be ignored.
That said, yes I believe many I've hired to assist in our own governance are anti-American traitors guilty of treason every day, and I believe they've gamed the system to cover their tracks, support their nefarious and spiteful activities, and we're allowing our courts to do nothing about it. Yes, I believe many who get hired into such roles actively seek to harm the people who've hired them, for their own gains in terms of power, control. Tough toenails. We're a long, long way from being a bottom-of-the-heap, third-world autocracy without any voice, in which we're disappeared at the drop of a hat. And so long as we're far from that, we've got every chance of rooting out the liberty-haters and traitors, and exposing them for who they are and what they're doing.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
Reason over Force: Why the Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos)
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April 5th, 2013 09:40 AM
I will write to our's in a heartbeat,and have.Thankfully,since no one is trying to ban anything in S.C.,and i have seen,how they voted on a couple of bills i' haven't wrote them lately.
April 5th, 2013 09:49 AM
I think we should write thousands of letters to the media. They're the ones controlling things right now. Maybe they need to be protested against.
"If you only knew the power of the dark side!" - Darth Vader
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