2A - Put Up Or Shut Up! What have you done?
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SO, What have you really done to ...
April 7th, 2013 04:13 AM
2A - Put Up Or Shut Up! What have you done?
I guess I could have created a poll on this, but most of you don't respond to polls.
SO, What have you really done to influence the current debate on 2A?
I do not mean to be 'in your face', but the actual question may be.
We are loosing. Prove me wrong.
Tell Us who you emailed, called, used ink to write to, or spoke to.
Last edited by ANGLICO; April 7th, 2013 at 04:38 AM.
Reason: Spelling since I am naturally dumb!
April 7th, 2013 04:13 AM
April 7th, 2013 04:27 AM
Since December, I have introduced six of my liberal friends and family to shooting. One is hooked, and we now shoot together weekly. Another just submitted his concealed carry permit application. Another wants to go back to the range but is very busy and newly in love, so the timing isn't right yet. A third told me that she is going to apply for a cpl on Monday. Another didn't like the shooting, but at least she now knows that going after good guys' guns is not a solution. Same is true of another, though he did enjoy shooting. All are now no longer rabid anti gunners, and all now see through the lies and political spin.
I am planning to take more liberal friends to the range soon.
If we don't have shooters and enthusiasts on both sides of the aisle, we will lose. If you only have friends that think just like you and share all your opinions and ideologies, there isn't much to do other than write letters.
I've written a few of those myself.
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April 7th, 2013 05:48 AM
Well let's see... I rejoined the NRA after a fifteen year absence. I have written several of my state representatives. I did the Ruger challenge and submitted my form letter to all of my federal representatives and senators. I regularly contribute to the gun rights conversations taking place (about every other day now) in our online version of the newspaper. I do this with polite and relevant pro-gun rights arguments, instead of the usual rants provided by many of my friends in the gun community. You can reach a lot of people that way and I have managed to have some fairly decent online conversations (with large followings). I don't really know if that has changed any minds about gun control, but I have been complimented by some for keeping the discussion focused and relevant to the issues. That has to help some.
April 7th, 2013 07:02 AM
As the legislative director for the Gun Owners of Vermont I have testified in committies, helped organize rallies, don interviews on radio, done interviews for the state wide papers, worked in booths at sportsman shows and everything else thats needed. Google me. Ed Cutler Vermont, or check our website. wwwgunownersofvermont.org
April 7th, 2013 08:54 AM
Why don't you publish every email you have sent to your elected officials over the last 10 years so we know you have proof you have been doing something?
Originally Posted by ANGLICO
BTW: I do not feel I need to prove anything to satisy your curiosity on how much I do to protect our 2A rights. You are not my conscience, nor my judge.
Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
April 7th, 2013 09:12 AM
I have no problem indicating what I've done...perhaps other will follow a similar plan.
Other than the typical letter writing, FAXing and ph calling I went a step further; some would call it "putting your money where your mouth is"!
I shoot several hundred rnds of pistol ammo a week.
I easily blow thru 100 rnds at the range in 45 mins. I feel my 40 bucks is better used by the NRA-ILA than my 45 mins of enjoyment.
Every other week I take the cash I would have spent on 40 cal, 100 rounds, and donate the money to the NRA-ILA which equals
about 40 bucks!
Each of us is different. I am not hear to place a guilt trip on anyone..but, it is a easy matter to email a letter of support or protest, but let's face the facts.
W/o cold hard cash, our NRA-ILA reps can do nothing! Protest gatherings are great and can be effective.
I don't have access to the courts who decide such matters, so I am willing to give money to be represented by those who do.
"When those who are governed do too little, those who govern can, and will, do too much." Ronald Reagan
Do what you can; then do what you must
April 7th, 2013 09:51 AM
These are important times for our 2A, and maybe what I state here will give someone else an idea on how to help, so I don't mind saying what I've done, I think it's for a good cause.
It all started in the early 60's, there was some congressional gun talk at the time, I believe it was after the JFK assassination? I was about 10 years old, and bought the coolest bumper sticker and put it on our pickup truck back glass. Classic----- "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns". Not much has changed huh?
I don't have it anymore, I lost a lot of my files in my shop fire so can't post it here, but as a young man I hand-wrote a letter to my senator at the time, Russel Long, about some gun control talk going on. I remember I wasn't particularly happy with his reply back to me. It wasn't rude in any way, but it left me unsettled. Hmmmm?
I became a NRA Life member about 25 years ago. IIRC the NRA had a payment program. LOL
More recently I boosted that Life to Endowment member and paid for Life memberships for my wife, son, daughter, and grandson's. I also enrolled us all as members of GOA and SAF. One of our DC members here anxiously wanted to join the NRA but was unable at the time. I sponsored a membership for him.
I've emailed and phoned my US representative (he's on my side), I've done the same with both of my senators. Sen Vitter is on my side, Sen Landrieu I have doubts about. Prior to the 2014 elections I will likely support and help Cassidy who will be one of those running against Landrieu. He's a good guy. We have a local state representative coming up for re-election in 2014, he is swinging anti-gun, and I will be working closely with whoever I can support that's running against him. We have to do more than cast our single vote, we've got to outwork the competition in political campaigns. Griping to each other on a gun forum aint gonna cut it.
Generally everyone I know is pro-gun, so I constantly talk to strangers and encourage them to call Landrieu, along with carrying a pocketful full of computer made info cards to hand out to them so they have her phone numbers and the card serving as a reminder to call. In the LGS I typically give stacks of them away to customers, and I can tell by their comments they are happy to pass those cards along to their friends/family.
Turn the election's in 2014 to a "2A Revolution". It will serve as a 1994 refresher not to "infringe" on our Second Amendment. We know who they are now.........SEND 'EM HOME. Our success in this will be proportional to how hard we work to make it happen.
April 7th, 2013 10:14 AM
I've contacted my local, state, and federal legislators via email, and follow up phone calls. I have and continue to donating money to the NRA.
They all know I'm a voter and this is a priority one issue for my family and me.
My thoughts on this are. This subject in DOA on a federal level, but we still have to fight our battles on the state level.
Don't believe what you hear and only half of what you see!
April 7th, 2013 10:33 AM
Let's see... Signed every petition, list & mass email put in front of me. Email my local as well as national rep & senator monthly, at least. Emailed DiFi, Reid,Uncle Joe & Obama at least three times. Emailed Cruz & Paul supporting their battle for 2A. Spread the word as much as possible amongst any who listen. Normal subject matter is the futility of the legislation & infringement in the name of common sense, while we have much more pressing matters to be addressed by our government. I am not a born leader or activist but I do express my opinion to those who will listen.
The second amendment should be the first amendment for obvious reasons.
April 7th, 2013 10:36 AM
I too have contacted my federal and state representatives, multiple times, both directly and using popvox. I've joined ($$$) multiple gun rights organizations, I've offered to introduce people to shooting, I've continued to spend money in the industry. Outside of actively working in a politicians campaign, I can't think of a whole lot more I can do as an individual.
April 7th, 2013 10:39 AM
I am an NRA member. I have wrote to our elected officials.After reading their responses,and seeing how they voted on anti-gun bills,no reason to keep writing to them.That said,if something comes up,i will do what i think i need to.I'm not much into politics,but,i've been following this pretty closely.If there is any anti gun bills being proposed in S.C.,someone is doing a good job of hiding it.
April 7th, 2013 11:05 AM
"Denial has no survival value." David Grossman
April 7th, 2013 12:02 PM
We have lost some battles. The Question shouldn't be what have you done, but what are you continuing to do? This is far from over. The communists in the senate and the house will not stop until there agenda is met. I will continue to do my part with or without anyone.....
Originally Posted by ANGLICO
April 7th, 2013 12:47 PM
I, like many members, inundate all state and federal representative with e-mail/letters and participate in every poll possible. I also make contributions to the GOA and the NRA-ILA and have extended my annual memberships far beyond my life expectancy. I also attend all local pro gun/anti gun public meetings, marches and demonstrations.
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— Abraham Lincoln
April 7th, 2013 12:54 PM
We've lost some in areas that I think were pretty well written off as being Commie-stan territories to begin with, the exception being CO. We've also been winning some as many states are passing protect the 2nd stances and enhancing carry. My state, for example, has active bills in the legislature for constitutional carry, educational property carry, restaurant carry, and privatization of permit holders information. One of our senators, Kay Hagan, seems to be taking notice of what people are saying and has been changing her tune despite serious pressure from Blooming-idiot's group.
Originally Posted by Harryball
I sense that this week, we are seeing a blitz by the antis, but I also see their strength waning as the media even reporting gun control legislation is going to fail. In the Leftist blog-o-sphere, I see a lot of people writing angry posts, but getting flagging response. I think that these media reports just started coming out is in part what has them making their blitz. You are absolutely correct, though, that we can't let up the pressure. Never!