Why would you expect in less from the great scholar from the state of confusion California
This is a discussion on 2A - 6 Lies Senator Feinstein told on MSNBC (VIDEO) within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Guns.com 4/12/13 | by S.H. Blannelberry ........In the eyes of many gun owners, Feinstein is public enemy number one and on Thursday, the squeaky gear ...
4/12/13 | by S.H. Blannelberry
........In the eyes of many gun owners, Feinstein is public enemy number one and on Thursday, the squeaky gear senior senator from California took to the airwaves (as she has done for the past 30 years) to appear on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. The topic of discussion: Congress’s latest effort to reform the nation’s gun law and the interview lasted almost a full 12 minutes. But what struck us wasn’t the length, rather how much B.S.., misinformation Sen. Feinstein was able to fit in that short span of time.
1. “We have a terrible regulatory system on these weapons.”
2. “Can a terrorist currently buy a gun in this country? Yes. Can a felon? Yes.”
3. “Weapons grow more and more sophisticated over time. And the kill power increases.”
4. “These weapons are very attractive to people who want to remedy a grievance, who just want to kill.”
5. “They’re not hunting weapons.”
6. “Virtually every single poll done shows that Americans support a wide range of prudent gun regulation.”
6 Lies Senator Feinstein told on MSNBC (VIDEO) - Guns.com
Why would you expect in less from the great scholar from the state of confusion California
. And they still will no matter what laws you pass. We cannot, or in some cases will not stop human beings and drugs from pouring over the border, so why do we think guns would be stopped? Also, if you run a gang with connection in Mexico, you instantly have a much more lucrative revenue stream, as well as needing to arm your member.2. “Can a terrorist currently buy a gun in this country? Yes. Can a felon? Yes.”
. It's called technology. The compound bow is far better than the old time string bows of the past. Someone can steal more money with today's computers in seconds than Dillenger did in his entire career.3. “Weapons grow more and more sophisticated over time. And the kill power increases.”
. People who want to kill always find a way. Do you think the abusive husband will not kill his estranged wife if he does not have a gun at hand?4. “These weapons are very attractive to people who want to remedy a grievance, who just want to kill.”
. Depends on what you are hunting. For deer, elk, moose, or bear, definitely not. Small game, definitely yes.5. “They’re not hunting weapons.”
. That's a vague statement that means nothing. Ask Americans, should gang members be able to use guns? You'll get the 90+ percent no response. What is prudent to Dianne Feinstein or Secretary Jane in suburban New York, is idiotic feel good legislation to Store owner Ann in Phoenix.6. “Virtually every single poll done shows that Americans support a wide range of prudent gun regulation.”
Regardless, to pretty much all Democrats and gun control activists, facts and reality are not part of the equation, it is purely about emotion and what they want, their totalitarian desires to tell everyone how they will live. Control, pure and simple.
Some thoughts ...
We do have a terrible regulatory/penal system. Nothing we've done legislatively has had much effect on stopping violence before it occurs. Its sweet spot is in punishing those caught for such things.1. “We have a terrible regulatory system on these weapons.”
That said, she's trying to leverage that poor record by twisting it to mean certain legislation could indeed help prevent things. Criminalizing murder/robbery/rape and all the rest hasn't halted such violent acts from happening. Criminalizing possession of this or that product won't either. That's the lie.
She's right. Any felon knows that it's about as simple to buy a gun as it is drugs, in practically any town in the country, and certainly from the underground network of felons and their suppliers in every state.2. “Can a terrorist currently buy a gun in this country? Yes. Can a felon? Yes.”
That said, she's implying closing the so-called "loop holes" in the statutes by criminalizing upstanding citizens is going to matter a damn with felons. That's the lie. It won't matter much, if at all. It'll just criminalize citizens, and felons will continue to acquire their weapons away from places where they're denied ... just as they always have.
She's right. They do keep getting better, as metallurgy, CNC and build techniques improve. Of course, with the "spray and pray" mentality, lack of training generally, and overall waning of firearms as part of our upbringing, as well as improvements in medical/trauma response, most injuries now aren't nearly as fatal as they once were. There's the lie.3. “Weapons grow more and more sophisticated over time. And the kill power increases.”
She's right, again. Anyone who feels so aggrieved that it spawns murderous designs is going to think a deadly weapon is a fairly practical, "attractive" selection for remedying that situation. Felons have always thought so, whether a rock, tire iron, club, knife, firearm or whatever else will get the job done. But that hardly means what she implies, that the mere presence of guns promote murderous grievances and "just wanting" to kill. That's the lie.4. “These weapons are very attractive to people who want to remedy a grievance, who just want to kill.”
They work very well as that, for many folks, as with any other firearm that is relatively accurate, penetrating, reliable. That's the lie.5. “They’re not hunting weapons.”
Who's poll? What design/method of polling? What questions, how crafted to avoid bias, how presented? Done by Johnnie's Pollmeisters Inc., Gallup, someone hired by the gun-grabbers for the task of proving the grabbers' false claims?6. “Virtually every single poll done shows that Americans support a wide range of prudent gun regulation.”
That's the lie, as though spin-doctored questionnaires truly reflect a nation of 311M's views on liberty.
That's the ticket!
Lies? Some are true (1,2,3) and some may be true or half true (4,5,6), but I don't see any outright lies. Sorry.
Doin what a politician does best. Lie.
I am no Feinstein fan, but I think there are worse trespasses than this.
1. The current regulatory system is pretty poor. Pretty much every federal system is pretty poor. The debate is how much we should be regulating firearms. We know Feinstein thinks its a 100% ban.
2. "Yes" is a true statement. They can also get guns all over the world.
3. Certainly today's top end rifles deliver more firepower that past rifles. You don't see too many armies still using black powder.
4. True, but they're also used by us law abiding fellas the other 99.9% of the time.
5. An AR or AK variant was not designed as a hunting rifle. People have pushed the AR into hunting. Notice the best hunting models stray away from the original design. The worst hunting models are Milspec, but it can be done. AK's are also pushed into hunting with even worse results. Sure it can be ethically done, but...
6. True...when "virtually every poll" is done by liberal think tanks and universities. I do think an honest poll would word questions innocuously enough that most Americans would agree to "some gun control". We may know why to fight with that, but we also need to admit how much of America has their heads in the sand.
Again, there are far worse things she's said. All this is semantics, and I'd rather spent my energy on worthwhile fights. At these comments, I only have enough energy to
Last edited by Nmuskier; April 12th, 2013 at 08:08 PM. Reason: Dinner. Paused my post so long, I logged out. Sorry for any redundancy to above posts.
Actually, almost each and every one of these statements, as quoted, is 100% true, but none of them are reasons to enact gun control measures. Allow me to demonstrate...
These quotes are textbook examples of misleading with the truth.
A great job for her would be working in a broom factory, test driving the brooms.
Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast.
She's a waste of skin.
Know Guns, Know Safety, Know Peace.
No Guns, No Safety, No Peace.
Everyone is missing the real issue. Joe finally brought up the REAL issue of Violence. It lasted for about 3 sentences and F went right back to her agenda. Par for the course.
Stop whining and go do something that makes a difference!
If you think that I may be talking to you, then I am.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
If you want to read the truth, read this. No, not the Politico article about Peter King. Look at the response from a poster named VG, the licensed FFL.
Peter King: House gun bill ready Monday - Katie Glueck - POLITICO.com
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