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    President readies EO for gun control?

    Who does this President think he is...KING? Found this floating around on the Internet and we all know "Everything on the Internet is TRUE"...LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Biden's remarks
    "We also are reviewing the list of prohibited purchasers to maybe expand that list of prohibited purchasers. Granted, only 60% of people who go for a purchase are doing it [background checks]."
    The Senate just refused to expand the list of prohibited purchasers, but he's going to unilaterally expand the list anyway in defiance of Congress?
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    he's going to unilaterally expand the list anyway in defiance of Congress?
    I sure would like to be sure this isn't going to happen. But I've been surprised quite a bit lately.
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    How about some frigging EO's to loosen up the government regs on small businesses? How about ONE, just ONE frigging idea to get the economy moving again!? How about ONE frigging clue about how reckless the government is spending us into debt beyond our wildest ability to pay it back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    The Senate just refused to expand the list of prohibited purchasers, but he's going to unilaterally expand the list anyway in defiance of Congress?
    I am wondering would this be an impeachable offense? I don't understand government all that well but have learned a lot since being here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsky109 View Post
    Who does this President think he is...KING?...
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    I may be mistaken, but I don't think he can ban guns through Executive Order.

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    Question, for the politically-astute: What is the actual basis for legitimacy of Executive Orders, how far does that "privilege" go, and how far can Congress go to thwart such end-arounds of the law-making responsibility Congress has? If you know specifics on this, by all means respond, as it strongly applies to the risk of such a path occurring.
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    EO's and this guy, are like gin & tonics for Biden....

    IMO= I don't think he will...
    But....

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    Perhaps, Jolted (or is it Jilted) Joe, will make the new list of prohibited persons.... Maybe alkies won't be able to purchase double barreled shotguns...

    Sigh....

    Better order a double, Joe. You just made "the list."

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    Two words.

    Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Question, for the politically-astute: What is the actual basis for legitimacy of Executive Orders, how far does that "privilege" go, and how far can Congress go to thwart such end-arounds of the law-making responsibility Congress has? If you know specifics on this, by all means respond, as it strongly applies to the risk of such a path occurring.
    It is actually quite simple. He cannot make laws with EO's, period. EO's aren't a way for the President to end around congress. However, given the lies and constant breaking of his oath, I have no doubt the President will try and over reach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Question, for the politically-astute: What is the actual basis for legitimacy of Executive Orders, how far does that "privilege" go, and how far can Congress go to thwart such end-arounds of the law-making responsibility Congress has? If you know specifics on this, by all means respond, as it strongly applies to the risk of such a path occurring.
    Pretty simple, really.

    The president is the CEO of the Federal Government. He can issue any "Executive Order" he chooses, but it does not carry the weight of law. The CEO of the company I work for can issue any "Executive Order" he wants, too. If I refuse to obey it, he can fire me, but he can't have me arrested. Same with the President. The problem is, he CAN fire any of his "employees" who disobey him, and keep doing so until he gets someone in the position who will comply with the order (or until he gets impeached, whichever comes first).
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    Quote Originally Posted by smolck View Post
    It is actually quite simple. He cannot make laws with EO's, period. EO's aren't a way for the President to end around congress. However, given the lies and constant breaking of his oath, I have no doubt the President will try and over reach.

    I don't know...

    the sad fact is this Country is now being run (and has been for years) by Totalitarian Administrative Agencies. Which are Executive Branch. They have become the 4th Branch of Government and ignore the Bill of Rights when they snag you into their web of entrapment (layers and layers of conflicting rules).

    You are denied normal due process including but not limited to, presumed guilt so you have to defend your innocence without them demonstrating a legitimate case, running their little game on hearsay evidence, denying your Constitutional Right of a trial by a jury of your peers... where alleged evidence must be introduced and alleged witnesses confronted. But you are only allowed process through their minions of power hungry ego driven tax dodging government employee jerkwads, until you finally get before an Admin Law Judge several years later. The ALJ is in the same department as the investigators. Your final Appeal is before a panel of 3 of these same department ALJ's (who need to protect their budget via cases and personnel). That's it.

    When you stand up and defend yourself, they will use outrageous intimidation and stall tactics, often pass you off to another Agency for another investigation, and then when you and your attorney 'bust' the individuals for incompetence and/or breaking their own written Admin rules, those individuals are never fired or reprimanded. Heck they probably got an award or promotion. They then pull their power game on the next victim.

    I have NO IDEA how citizens allowed this to happen (since FDR as far as I can tell). The Congress creates law, but then turns it over to the Executive Branch. WThell?? Where is THAT in the Constitution?? These Agencies are completely outside the reach of the voter - including powerful Senators & Congressman because of the "Separation of Powers". Why on Earth would Congress write law and then knowingly remove themselves from control over that same law?? Ridiculous!! Regardless if you 'win', you are out thousands and thousands of dollars in attorney fees, legal investigators, and related legal expenses.

    I would bet that the majority of citizen/voters/taxpayers are unaware of this just as I used to be. For obvious names, think EPA, ESA, etc. that have decimated the State of Jefferson/OR economy. There are layers of less known Agencies.
    And this my friends NEEDS TO BE REVERSED BY ENACTING CORRECTIVE LAWS!

    So dicktator chairman hobama could easily enforce rules thru TSA or myriads of other Agencies - and completely mess with legal gun owners until they are broke.
    Last edited by cdynaco; April 18th, 2013 at 11:30 PM.
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