Gabbi Giffords Op ED

This is a discussion on Gabbi Giffords Op ED within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; I don't have a link to it. Basically she is telling the LIE that NO background checks are done at ANY gun shows or ONLINE ...

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    Gabbi Giffords Op ED

    I don't have a link to it. Basically she is telling the LIE that NO background checks are done at ANY gun shows or ONLINE gun sales.

    Obama said that the NRA lied about the amendments that got shot down.

    Now Gabbi and Rachel Maddow (MSNBC) are telling the same lies about online gun sales and gun show checks.

    The 'facts' they are telling regarding online gun sales IS A LIE, and we all know it. And the OMISSION on gun shows about no checks when it is a private sale ONLY (non FFL dealer). Omission is still a lie.
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    I can forgive them both, both suffer from abnormal brain syndrome, one was shot in the head, the other's a democrat.
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    I am sorry for her being a victim and having to deal with her impairments. But that will never change the fact that I don't agree with her viewpoints, politics, or those of her lucky husband who enjoyed the ride of his life - at the hands of taxpayers. He should shut up on the national stage because he was not elected - yet he grabs the government media microphone as if he was.
    Regardless, adding new layers of restrictions on law abiding citizens would do nothing - past, present & future - to stop a crazy from getting a gun - one way or another - and causing the mayhem their sick mind is compelling them to do.
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    I would almost bet that husband Mark is keeping his face out there to get some $$$$$ from Bloomberg and run for Congress soon.
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    She was politically impared before the tragic shooting by a madman...it has done nothing to improve her thought process. Her husband is the typical liberal Navy officer (remember Carter, Kerry and McCain)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8th ID View Post
    I would almost bet that husband Mark is keeping his face out there to get some $$$$$ from Bloomberg and run for Congress soon.

    Yep, he'll be on the ballet for sure

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    And they call themselves gun owners...............Geeeezzzz.

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    GOINO-Gun Owner In Name Only.
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    Here's the deconstruction of the Op-Ed by Taranto, who does a nice job:

    Best of the Web Today: Gabby Giffords Poisons the Well - WSJ.com

    That's a harsh but justified appraisal of her op-ed in today's New York Times, titled "A Senate in the Gun Lobby's Grip." It's a reaction to yesterday's failure of President Obama's gun-control proposals in the Democratic Senate. Giffords's 900-word jeremiad should be included in every textbook of logic and political rhetoric, so rife is it with examples of fallacious reasoning and demagogic appeals.
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    Op-Ed by Gabrielle Giffords, 4/17/2013 @ NY Times: A Senate in the Gun Lobby’s Grip.

    SENATORS say they fear the N.R.A. and the gun lobby. But I think that fear must be nothing compared to the fear the first graders in Sandy Hook Elementary School felt as their lives ended in a hail of bullets. The fear that those children who survived the massacre must feel every time they remember their teachers stacking them into closets and bathrooms, whispering that they loved them, so that love would be the last thing the students heard if the gunman found them. <snip>


    What we need is a counterpoint op-ed piece, such as: A Nation in the Socialist-Autocrats' Grip.
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    I will give her a pass. We can strongly disagree with her and her husband's opinion, and respond on the merits, but nothing good will come from questioning their integrity or intelligence.

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    Or gloating..........

    Gloating is bad form..............

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    That's strange. I've bought a couple guns at gun shows and online from members here and gunbroker in which I was required to go through an FFL and a NICS check before I could purchase. I must have done it wrong.
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    They twist the truth to suit their agenda.....

    Gun show transactions:
    There are two types of sellers at gun shows
    1. Those that hold a FFL -- They are mandated to do background checks
    2. Those that do not hold a FFL but are a resident of the state of gun show -- They can sell(in most states) to anyone that lives in that state without a background check

    Internet transactions:
    There are two types of internet sellers
    1. All firearm transactions from gun stores/internet stores that sell weapons are mandated to have the transaction go through a FFL holder in the purchasers state and weapon is shipped to FFL holder who is mandated to do a background check
    2. Sellers onn ArmsList, Craig's List, etc., They can sell(in most states) to anyone that lives in the state they are selling it from without a background check
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    GOINO-Gun Owner In Name Only.
    As in Bat Goino?? Sounds like sumpin I wouldn't wanna step in with loggin boots on that's fer dang sure!!
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