Here Is The Real Crime......

Here Is The Real Crime......

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    Here Is The Real Crime......

    The following are existing federal laws(statutes) dealing with armed criminals once they have a firearm. These laws are rarely enforced to the maximums. So why would more such laws prevent anything. The defeated proposed law was not a common sense law, it was a nonsense law.

    10 years, 18 U.S.C. § 922(g) – for possession of a firearm or ammunition by a felon, fugitive, or drug user. Possession means touching a gun, any gun.

    10 years, 18 U.S.C. § 922(j) – for possession of a stolen firearm.

    10 years, 18 U.S.C. § 922(i) – for shipment or transport of a stolen firearm across state lines.

    10 years, 18 U.S.C. § 924(b) – for shipping, transporting or receipt of a firearm across state lines with intent to commit a felony.

    5 to 30 consecutive mandatory minimum sentences, 18 U.S.C. § 924(a)(1)(A) – for carrying, using, or possessing a firearm in connection with a federal crime of violence or drug trafficking.

    The death penalty or up to life in imprisonment, 18 U.S.C. § 924(j) – for committing murder while possessing a firearm in connection with a crime of violence or drug trafficking.

    15 years mandatory minimum, 18 U.S.C. § 924(e) – for a “prohibited person” who has three prior convictions for drug offenses or violent felonies.

    10 years, 18 U.S.C. § 924(g) – for interstate travel to acquire or transfer a firearm to commit crimes.

    18 U.S.C. § 922
    18 USC § 922 - Unlawful acts | Title 18 - Crimes and Criminal Procedure | U.S. Code | LII / Legal Information Institute

    18 U.S.C. § 924
    18 USC § 924 - Penalties | Title 18 - Crimes and Criminal Procedure | U.S. Code | LII / Legal Information Institute
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    Vote for sticky.

    922 (x) is another one to add, possession by a crazy person.
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    The current administration has set a new record in enforcing federal gun laws, with nearly 1% of those found in violation being charged with any crime.

    OK, so new records can be either high or low!
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    Ok here I go I have listened to DiFi this AM and she wants the rights of the bomber protected and then another that stated that the bomber should have the protection of the 5A not to incrimnate himself so why should my rights fade away and BG rights get stronger ? So I say to you we shall remain strong and the vote is coming soon and we can restore what our nation was built on and send the carpet baggers down the road

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    Laws are not made to control the criminal, the criminal will not obey them anyway. The law makers know this.
    Laws are made to control the law abiding.
    The reason for more gun laws is not to reduce violence it is to control the law abiding.
    The criminals will never opose the government no matter how oppressive it becomes.
    The biggest fear our leaders have is that at some point the people will finally wake up and opose them with force.
    That can not be tolerated.

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    While I strongly disagree on the huge number of arms-related laws we have, almost to the point of thinking that none of them should exist, I strongly support extremely heavy sentencing (including high minimum sentences as well as the death penalty) for any crimes of violence against others.

    We desperately need a 10/20/Out type leveling of the playing field, IMO, permanently taking out the most-violent from our society. Fine, jacking up existing sentencing for having a weapon is one way to go, but it doesn't get the crux of the issue in the first place: the violence itself, and the removal from society.

    We also need to dramatically curtail (or even eliminate) the pleading-down of sentencing and the parole down-grading of crimes. All that does is let the violent come back at us earlier than would otherwise be the case.
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    Crowman; kinda' preaching to the choir my friend.

    Makes sense? The current administration wants nothing to do with what makes sense.
    They don't want to be confused by the facts.
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