Tennessee 2A bills advance to law

This is a discussion on Tennessee 2A bills advance to law within the The Second Amendment & Gun Legislation Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; Got an email today that detailed some of the Gun Rights advances made in the TN Legislature this session. Thought my Tennessee Brothers and Sisters ...

Results 1 to 12 of 12
Like Tree10Likes
  • 2 Post By TN_Mike
  • 2 Post By Gene83
  • 2 Post By palmgopher
  • 1 Post By GhostMaker
  • 1 Post By jbum
  • 1 Post By Betty
  • 1 Post By cthruit

Thread: Tennessee 2A bills advance to law

  1. #1
    VIP Member Array TN_Mike's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Shelby County TN
    Posts
    11,111

    Tennessee 2A bills advance to law

    Got an email today that detailed some of the Gun Rights advances made in the TN Legislature this session. Thought my Tennessee Brothers and Sisters might like to see it as well. The best of which was, the records of who has a TN HCP is no longer public record which means anti gun newspapers like the Memphis Communist Appeal can no longer publish the names and addresses of HCP holders.



    Tennessee: General Assembly Adjourns with Second Amendment Victories

    The 108th General Assembly of Tennessee adjourned sine die on Friday, April 19. Tennesseans experienced quite a few victories this legislative session that protect the Second Amendment, as well as some disappointment when comments were made that disregarded the intent of a bill attempting to protect citizens’ right to self-defense during their commute to and from work. However, this legislative session represents significant reform that will restore and protect the rights of responsible gun owners and sportsmen.

    Tennesseans who possess a valid Handgun Carry Permit (HCP) can breathe a sigh of relief now that House Bill 9
    has passed in both legislative chambers and was signed into law by Governor Bill Haslam (R). Sponsored by state Representative William Lamberth (R-44), HB 9 makes all information pertaining to HCP holders confidential and not open for public inspection or publication. This privacy protection legislation went into effect upon the Governor’s signature yesterday. Tennessee becomes the 39th state to enact such permit confidentiality legislation.

    House Bill 6
    , the School Security Act of 2013, sponsored by state Representative Eric Watson (R-22), seeks to provide more protection for children and staff during school hours. HB 6 was amended multiple times during this legislative session and was finally agreed upon by the House and the Senate to allow a person employed or assigned to a Local Education Agency to possess and carry a firearm on the grounds of that school if they are current or former law enforcement. This individual would also be required to have a HCP and the written authorization of the director of schools. HB 6 currently awaits approval from Governor Haslam.

    Senate Bill 714
    , sponsored by state Senator Stacey Campfield (R-7), reforms the Right-to-Carry statute, by allowing someone who has undergone voluntary treatment for alcohol or substance abuse to apply for a HCP within three years of completing such a treatment. SB 714 passed in both legislative chambers by an overwhelming vote and Governor Haslam signed it into law yesterday. Under the previous law, there was no distinction between a voluntary or involuntary treatment and required a person to wait 10 years before being eligible to apply for a HCP. Senate Bill 714 takes effect on July 1, 2013.

    Senate Bill 142
    , sponsored by Lieutenant Governor Ron Ramsey (R-4), had the intent of allowing a person with a valid HCP to transport and store a firearm or ammunition in the permit holder's privately-owned motor vehicle in public or private parking areas under certain conditions. Unfortunately, some legislators attempted to derail and erode the bill. Governor Haslam signed SB 142 into law on March 14 and it takes effect on July 1, 2013. Your NRA-ILA will continue to monitor this situation closely and work with legislators to put stronger provisions in place next session that would protect Tennessee’s responsible citizens.
    GhostMaker and Inspector71 like this.
    ,=====o00o _
    //___l__,\____\,__
    l_--- \___l---[]lllllll[]
    (o)_)-o- (o)_)--o-)_)

  2. Remove Ads

  3. #2
    VIP Member Array Gene83's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    2,220
    Thanks for the update Mike. The permit confidentiality legislation was especially welcome.
    GhostMaker and TN_Mike like this.
    "The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come." ~ Confucius

  4. #3
    Senior Member Array palmgopher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    tennessee
    Posts
    722
    Well at least we are going in the right direction for now!
    TN_Mike and GhostMaker like this.

  5. #4
    VIP Member Array GhostMaker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    3,589
    Thanks Mike! Glad to see some forward moment. I'm with Gene83 on the confidentiality aspect of the law, that is a welcome change.
    TN_Mike likes this.
    U.S. Army Desert Storm Veteran
    Certified Police Firearms Instructor
    Former US Customs Blue Lighting Strike Force Commissioned Officer
    Advanced Highway Drug Interdiction Specialist
    Graduate Regional Counter Drug Training Academy
    Graduate of Bullet Proof Mind Course - (Dave Grossman Course)

  6. #5
    VIP Member Array jbum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Dandridge Tennessee
    Posts
    2,060
    Yep it was a good thing. The only one I was not for (or it should d have been amended to include all hcp holders) was HB 6 I can't for the life of me figure out why it is only for current or former LEO. I am more trained than some of our county officers here.
    TN_Mike likes this.

  7. #6
    VIP Member
    Array Betty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Nashville-ish
    Posts
    3,187
    The Commercial Appeal still has their searchable database on their website. I say every TN member needs to email them giving them 24 hours to remove the database from their website, or we will collectively sue them.
    TN_Mike likes this.
    "Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa

  8. #7
    VIP Member Array Gene83's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    2,220
    My concern was with a certain aspect of the so-called "guns in trunks" bill. While your employer could not keep you from storing your weapon in your vehicle while at work, because Tennessee is a right to work state, he could theoretically search the database and fire any employee who had a carry permit. The confidentiality law makes it harder for them to do that.

    Maybe I was worried over nothing, and then again, maybe not.
    "The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come." ~ Confucius

  9. #8
    Distinguished Member Array lionround's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Memphis
    Posts
    1,731
    It's a darn good start.
    The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
    -- Steven Wright
    1950 Colt .38 Police Positive Special
    2013 SCCY 9mm CPX-2 Stainless Steel
    US Army 1973-1977, 95B

  10. #9
    Senior Member Array jem102's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    East TN
    Posts
    1,018
    Quote Originally Posted by Gene83 View Post
    My concern was with a certain aspect of the so-called "guns in trunks" bill. While your employer could not keep you from storing your weapon in your vehicle while at work, because Tennessee is a right to work state, he could theoretically search the database and fire any employee who had a carry permit. The confidentiality law makes it harder for them to do that.

    Maybe I was worried over nothing, and then again, maybe not.
    No, you are correct to be concerned.
    The "law" is a joke. It ONLY stops criminal prosecution under certain sections of the law.

    Despite what Lt. Govenor Ron Ramsey has claimed, the soon to be law does not remove all risk of criminal prosecution. There are at least two statutes (TCA 39-17-1314 and the criminal trespass statute and possibly others) where criminal prosecution still is available. In addition, if prosecution arises, your weapon(s) will be subject to mandatory forfeiture (TCA 39-17-1359). In addition those who are not the "owner" of the car, could be criminally prosecuted. So if the car is registered to your wife, father, mother, brother, neighbor...whomever...better leave your gun at home and travel unprotected!

    "ZERO" protection from your employer! It was clearly stated by the sponsors of the bill, If "No Firearms" is part of the workplace policy they can terminate you for cause. Guess what that means. NO unemployment will be paid and "I" believe you are ineligible for COBRA as well.
    Under Public Chapter 1046 passed in 2012 that if you did sue and you lost (which is practically certain under Tennessee's employment at will doctrine) that the trial court shall award to the employer up to $10,000 in court costs, deposition costs, attorney's fees and other expenses.

    What a great law...we went from a misdemeanor arrest and max fine of $500.00 with the loss of your $45K /year job plus full benefits to, are you ready...maybe, just maybe, no misdemeanor and/or max $500.00 fine.
    If you are terminated and take legal action trying to use the new "LAW" and do not win your case, (I have been in management in this state for over 20 years and never seen the "work at will" clause reversed) you also get to give your old boss 10 grand...WHAT A GREAT DEAL, WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS IN TENNESSEE GUN RIGHTS!!!

    About the only thing this bill does positively is to provide a voting record of those legislators who have willfully made a choice on the 2nd Amendment that puts the jobs of Tennessee's handgun permit holders at risk.
    Once again, evidence that the Establishment Republicans in Tennessee are destroying your constitutional rights!

    A pure slap in the face from people I voted for and contributed to their campaigns with a flare of arrogance not often seen!

    OK soapbox put away now.
    Who is John Galt?

    Sometimes there's justice, sometimes there's just us...

  11. #10
    Member Array cthruit's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    421
    About guns in cars: Don't ask, don't tell...Worked for Clinton

    I just started a new thread concerning feeling underrepresented by our Tennesseeans in DC, especially the senatorial types. They're both "conservative," but don't vote like it most of the time.
    TN_Mike likes this.

  12. #11
    VIP Member Array TN_Mike's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Shelby County TN
    Posts
    11,111
    Quote Originally Posted by Betty View Post
    The Commercial Appeal still has their searchable database on their website. I say every TN member needs to email them giving them 24 hours to remove the database from their website, or we will collectively sue them.
    I agree Betty. I will be sending an email very soon.


    Quote Originally Posted by cthruit View Post
    About guns in cars: Don't ask, don't tell...Worked for Clinton

    I just started a new thread concerning feeling underrepresented by our Tennesseeans in DC, especially the senatorial types. They're both "conservative," but don't vote like it most of the time.
    I am of the same mind on our Tennessee Senators being less than conservative. I have been very disappointed in both of them for some time now.
    ,=====o00o _
    //___l__,\____\,__
    l_--- \___l---[]lllllll[]
    (o)_)-o- (o)_)--o-)_)

  13. #12
    VIP Member Array Gene83's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    2,220
    Quote Originally Posted by cthruit View Post
    About guns in cars: Don't ask, don't tell...Worked for Clinton

    I just started a new thread concerning feeling underrepresented by our Tennesseeans in DC, especially the senatorial types. They're both "conservative," but don't vote like it most of the time.
    I've always been an advocate of "Don't ask, don't tell" in regards to whether you have a weapon stored in your car, or for that matter, whether or not you are carrying period." As far as I'm concerned, the fewer people who know that I have a permit, the better.
    "The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come." ~ Confucius

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Search tags for this page

are flare guns legal in tn

,

flare gun laws tennessee

,

guns made in tennessee

,

house bill 9 tn

,

is a flaregun legal in tn

,

tennessee gun carry legislature

,

tennessee gun law

,

tennessee gun permit confidentiality law

Click on a term to search for related topics.