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    Wear "the mark of the beast" and shoot your gun

    A "new" way to limit the firing of a weapon... wear an RFID chip in a ring or a bracelet... your firearm(s) is(are) coded to that RFID chip... only you can shoot the gun...

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    Once this has been used by police departments for a few years without incident I will be all for it. Until then I can't trust my life to it.
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    I give it 48 hours and it's hacked and made useless.
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    Not me. It defeats the purpose of carrying a back-up gun, which isn't to back up my primary, but to hand off to a friend if need be. Besides, I can think of no way to implement such a system that would not be defeated very simply by removing it from the gun manually during a full take-down of the weapon, unless you plan to go to a "trigger-by-wire" system that uses an electronic trigger mechanism.
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    Politicians should be made to wear a ring that only allows them to speak the truth...or it "zaps 'em".
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    I will get one a year after Congressman Tierney bodyguards start using them!
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    It is not as bad as registration, but it still stinks. First of all, it won't address the millions of extant firearms unless they are sold 3 or more years after the law is passed. Secondly, as mentioned above, there are times when tossing a weapon to a spouse or friend may be very helpful - not if this bill gets passed and thirdly, most people who have multiple guns will store the ring/bracelet with the gun to which it goes - this obviates the purpose of the law.

    So, in the end, this is a waste of money for a feel good, but useless bill. I say no.
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    Then Hillary can come up with a few more safety features and then we'll all be free of bad guys using guns to do bad things, and the poor bad guys wont have to go to jail anymore.
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    RFID. If it ever becomes the only method of activating a firearm, imagine such a thing being disabled simply by driving by. *Zip*, and one is effectively disarmed (but doesn't know it).

    The RFID Hacking Underground @ Wired.com.

    In the end, this is little different than UBC's or any other penalize-all-citizens type of scheme. It'll criminalize citizens who fail to toe the line, and criminals will simply sidestep such edicts to acquire "the good stuff." To say nothing of essentially, then, forcing families to have personal, private firearms for each and every member of the family because firearm X won't work with person Y. In the heat of a violent attack, that's a baaaaaaad situation to be in.

    Myself? Pass. I'll take the standard, un-hackable model, thank you kindly. Call me "old school," call me "old fashioned." Just call me armed.
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    The other, massive drawback to this that I've not seen mentioned, is that wearing something as overt as a ring or bracelet that would be openly known to be for a firearm, is basically a Scarlet Letter for every concealed carry person and UC officer in the US, marking them as having a weapon.

    Rather defeats the purpose of concealed carry, doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post
    The other, massive drawback to this that I've not seen mentioned, is that wearing something as overt as a ring or bracelet that would be openly known to be for a firearm, is basically a Scarlet Letter for every concealed carry person and UC officer in the US, marking them as having a weapon.

    Rather defeats the purpose of concealed carry, doesn't it?
    I'm sure it'll be something in the pocket, sort of like those windshield-mounted "toll booth" thingies everyone uses in major metros that have such toll highways. Won't need to advertise. Of course, misplacing one would be as simple as a hole in the pocket, effectively rendering the person disarmed (though not knowing it until it was too late).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post
    The other, massive drawback to this that I've not seen mentioned, is that wearing something as overt as a ring or bracelet that would be openly known to be for a firearm, is basically a Scarlet Letter for every concealed carry person and UC officer in the US, marking them as having a weapon.

    Rather defeats the purpose of concealed carry, doesn't it?
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    We gonna do this to knives, baseball bats, hammers, pressure cookers, etc. also?
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    I see how this could be monitored by the Gubmint just like the house arrest bracelet.

    The bill holds gun makers liable if they fail to make handguns that meet the government safety standard two years after the bill passes.
    Please define "government safety standard".

    I say, no thank you.
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    On the "practical" side of this... an rfid chip can fit under most rings. in a necklace, in a bracelet... Rfid chips are what they put in chipped dogs and cats... small enough to pass through a rather large syringe and be injected under the skin... So, practically, you don't all have to have the same "secret decoder ring..." that would be like the "scarlet letter." You could even probably choose to have it injected under your skin.. .and all your firearms coded to it..

    On the impractical side... it can be hacked... it is useless...

    And in the COMPLETELY, EXTREMELY, TOTALLY NON-EXISTENT, RARE incident in which you would have to give your back up gun to your buddy or some other potential victim... because you were being attacked by a hoard of gun toting zombies... they could only use it to club off an assailant. So, you would have to strip off your clothes and give said buddy your body armor if you wanted to protect them... from gunfire... the zombies would eat him anyway.

    Sheesh.

    I say this knowing full well that I have an entire arsenal of 20 long arms in my car trunk... you know, just in case I find a whole group of people who are resisting the evil government but don't have the necessary arms to protect themselves and their God given right to keep and bear arms... against the GESTAPO GOVERNMENT.

    (p.s. I don't drive a car.)

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