Animal Farm NY Style

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    Animal Farm NY Style

    State lawmakers seek to exempt retired cops from new gun restrictions
    On Thursday, the New York State Assembly approved a bill that would allow retired police to keep assault weapons and high-capacity magazines they purchased during their time on the force.
    State lawmakers seek to exempt retired cops from new gun restrictions - NY Daily News

    Do not get me wrong, I am not anti LEO by any stretch but a retired LEO is a private citizen. Why would such need anything that Joe Schmukatelli next door is not allowed to own?

    The bill sponsor said- “We put this bill forward in order to make sure retired police officers have the firepower they need in the situations where it is necessary,” Lentol said. What kind of situations are former NY LEOs getting into?

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    I agree.

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    Are retired cops any more qualified to handle weapons than retired marines, or civillian range instructors? Are they less likely to suffer mental breakdowns than firemen and bus drivers? Where do they come up with this stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarisataka View Post
    The bill sponsor said- “We put this bill forward in order to make sure retired police officers have the firepower they need in the situations where it is necessary,” Lentol said. What kind of situations are former NY LEOs getting into?
    Same situations WE all get into, actually.

    Ironically, that logic the bill's sponsor is promoting is exactly what justifies scrapping the whole 2A-infringing edifice we've constructed, including such "class" distinctions between folks deemed to have valid reasons to carry and the unwashed (whose reason of protecting life and limb isn't considered sufficient cause).

    None is more equal than others ... Animal Farm, indeed, with a heavy dose of 1984 tossed in for good measure.
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    How dare you disparage the Animals like that!
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    It would seem to me that someone retired from the military would be far more qualified than retired LEO`s
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    Quote Originally Posted by michael57231 View Post
    It would seem to me that someone retired from the military would be far more qualified than retired LEO`s
    That may be true but as retired military myself I am now an ordinary citizen not deserving of a special class distinction.
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    So, retired LEO's will be allowed to protect their families, but the rest of the populace are expendable.

    Great!

    So glad I do not live in NY.
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    I have great respect for those who have served as active law enforcement officers. However after they retire they are once again simply citizens, and they deserve all the rights and privileges (and responsibilities) of being American citizens. If it is deemed that retired LEOs are deserving of being able to carry out their lives unabated by restrictive gun laws, then ALL law abiding citizens should have the same right to do so. Just the opinion of this simple American citizen.
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    There is certainly no shortage of stupidity in NY government...
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    I, too, am pro-cop and a law and order type of guy. But what is good for one group of citizens is good for all. Why is it that one group is allowed tools to defend themselves but others are not? Can anyone say POLICE STATE?

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    It's NY.
    'Nuff said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    None is more equal than others ... Animal Farm, indeed, with a heavy dose of 1984 tossed in for good measure.
    I thought the allusion to Animal Farm was very clever, and I'm totally going to steal it whenever this type of discussion comes up again. But, what were you thinking of with 1984? I don't see a crazy-awesome parallel like Animal Farm generates.
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    It's politics. Since I retired my most frequent carry is a pair of five shot revolvers(I am phasing in a Glock). Do I run across my former clientele? Of course. This isn't about that it's about politicians getting endorsements from police unions and being seen as LEO friendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdave View Post
    This isn't about that it's about politicians getting endorsements from police unions and being seen as LEO friendly.
    Unfortunately I fear you are right.

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