Bloomberg Fining Gift Shop Owner $60,000 For Selling Tiny, Gun Shape Lighter

Bloomberg Fining Gift Shop Owner $60,000 For Selling Tiny, Gun Shape Lighter

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    Bloomberg Fining Gift Shop Owner $60,000 For Selling Tiny, Gun Shape Lighter

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    Are you sure he didn't have some 24oz. sodas tucked away in there somewhere also?...
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    You know, we tell people, outside NYC, about these things and they tell us we're just making them up.
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    If you are doing business somewhere, know the laws, follow them. If you disagree with the laws, get the laws changed. Don't blame the laws for you not following them and getting fined.
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    I agree if you own a business, it's your responsibility to know & follow the laws...

    Some TOY/NOVELTY guns are illegal in NY?! Wow! I shouldn't be surprised, but I really am...
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    My thoughts go out to all the small children in New York who will never be able to grow up playing cowboys and Indians......
    What's next...a ban on all movies on cable and dish in NYC that show a weapon....(westerns, cop shows, gangster movies, etc...etc...etc...).....
    There are two types of people who carry concealed weapons...Responsible ones and Irresponsible ones...which are you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lish View Post
    I agree if you own a business, it's your responsibility to know & follow the laws...

    Some TOY/NOVELTY guns are illegal in NY?! Wow! I shouldn't be surprised, but I really am...
    I stopped reading at "TOY/NOVELTY"...wasn't sure where that was going
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    If you are doing business somewhere, know the laws, follow them. If you disagree with the laws, get the laws changed. Don't blame the laws for you not following them and getting fined.
    I generally agree with that sentiment, but this situation is so ridiculous and the fine so onerous that I don't think it applies. Anybody with a sense of justice should be outraged by this, whatever the law says.

    I see it this way: our legal system is a sophisticated and rational means of impartially implementing the will of a cabal of drunken, debauched, power-mad degenerates, who occasionally do something so obnoxious that the people vote to dig them out of their entrenchments and replace them with slightly better degenerates. A proper respect for the law must be based on this understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    If you are doing business somewhere, know the laws, follow them. If you disagree with the laws, get the laws changed. Don't blame the laws for you not following them and getting fined.
    That's right, we should all follow bad laws... it leads to compliance, and we all know how that worked out in Germany, China, Cambodia, Russia, etc....
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    Ah Big Brother Bloomberg is at it again.
    He should let some of the helium out of his head and float back down to earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badey View Post
    That's right, we should all follow bad laws... it leads to compliance, and we all know how that worked out in Germany, China, Cambodia, Russia, etc....
    No, what we should do is get stupid laws changed. If I think 75 mph is a dumb law should I just be able to ignore it and not pay the consequences? What about drinking and driving laws? If a law is bad, get it changed, don't ignore it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    No, what we should do is get stupid laws changed. If I think 75 mph is a dumb law should I just be able to ignore it and not pay the consequences? What about drinking and driving laws? If a law is bad, get it changed, don't ignore it.
    When does that actually ever work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    No, what we should do is get stupid laws changed. If I think 75 mph is a dumb law should I just be able to ignore it and not pay the consequences? What about drinking and driving laws? If a law is bad, get it changed, don't ignore it.
    "Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice." - Henry David Thoreau

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutWestSystems View Post
    No, what we should do is get stupid laws changed. If I think 75 mph is a dumb law should I just be able to ignore it and not pay the consequences? What about drinking and driving laws? If a law is bad, get it changed, don't ignore it.
    The point was there are unjust laws. You're bringing up laws you just might dislike, but that make complete sense.

    The typical nanny-state crap, though, such as criminalizing "larger" cups of soda or shapes of plastic/metal are themselves unjust. They deserve to be fought, flouted, "laws" though they be. The key is: injustice; not mere dislike.
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